Heya Patrick,

On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Patrick Nagel <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Brett,
>
> On 2010-08-07 07:13 UTC Brett Morgan wrote:
> > OT and version control systems serve very different masters. By that I
> mean
> > you wouldn't want to use the merge system of version control systems for
> > Wave, just as you would not want to use OT for managing source code
> > history.
> >
> > The reason is simple, to steal a line from one of the Wave team, OT is
> too
> > good. OT's merge never fails.
> >
> > In version control systems you, as a user, rely on the merge failing to
> > highlight areas that need human intervention. In wave we don't want
> humans
> > to have to constantly be involved in handling the real time merge of the
> > disparate change streams.
>
> I'm aware of that. I was answering Ian's statements "My concern is that WFP
> is
> tightly coupled with OT, and OT is complex.", which seems to imply that
> something without OT could be more successful, at least as a first step.
> And then later he writes "I wonder whether a slightly different protocol
> [...]
> would be received better by the community. [...] one that would allow
> services
> to federate any type of content.", which seems to also be covered by VCS,
> as
> far as I can tell.
>

I'm intrigued at something Brett Slatkin openly pondered, broadcasting OT
over PuSH as a way of real timeifying update news feeds. That would fit into
the category of simpler to debug systems... =)


> I didn't really think this whole thing through, and maybe the required
> manual
> merging vs. OT in WFP makes it not workable for a
> communication/collaboration
> platform - but then so would any other implementation without OT, no?
>

I'll be honest, OT is one of those hammers that I've been trying to apply to
everything ever since wave came out. The only problem with wave is getting
all the edge cases right...


> Patrick.
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