Hi Jack,

I finally got those frame borders turned off. I think the problem was that
I'd forgotten about NS's perversity about wanting you to re-open the file
to see changes to the layout instead of just reloading (it's been two years
since I've done frames). I turned off the computer to go to dinner and when
I got back and started up NS again, "Voila! eet worked!" Hopefully one day
I'll be able to do frames as easily as I do tables but I'm not there yet --
the logic is just totally beyond me right now. I've read all the tutorials
and none of them make it any clearer.


>That's a mighty ambitious frameset! I must admit I can't quite figure out
>what you're trying to do. Can you mock up the rectangles in a single gif,
>stick it on a server and supply an url?

Done, and I hope you aren't sorry you asked. I stuck up both the current
version of the page (top) which works sort of OK and a mockup of how I'd
really like it to work (bottom). I added the pink lines to show you where
the frames are  divided.
http://www.kickassdesign.com/screencaptures/screencaps.html

Besides the layout problem, what's the syntax for telling, "hosting.gif"
(in the bottom left frame) to open "hosting.html" in frame A?

thanks for all your help. Suz


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Here's the current HTML (I probably don't need all those repetitions of the
'no border' instructions but I'm not about to change it now while it's
working!):

<FRAMESET BORDER=0 frameborder="no" frameborder="0" framespacing="0"
rows="140,*">

<FRAME SRC="logo.html" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="no"
border="0" framespacing="0" scrolling="no">

        <FRAMESET COLS="128,*" BORDER=0 frameborder="no" frameborder="0"
framespacing="0">

                <FRAME SRC="navbar.html" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0"
frameborder="no" border="0" framespacing="0" scrolling="no">

                <FRAME SRC="design.html" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0"
frameborder="no" border="0" framespacing="0" scrolling="yes" resize="no">

        </FRAMESET>

</FRAMESET>

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Suzanne Stephens, Stephens Design; Ashland, Oregon
541-552-1192  http://www.KickassDesign.com/ ICQ #8190023
CyberCircus Grand Prize Winners http://www.thecybercircus.com/
Web Page Design for Designers Design Resources: http://www.wpdfd.com/wpdres.htm
Clip Art: http://www.freeimages.com/stephens/


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