well, i've been to busy to follow this thread -- and thus have deleted all
the previous mails but the two that landed in my box today. Both from
franko. Since it seemed like the thread that wouldn't die -- I took a peek.

This is a HUGE ditto for what Frank has said about http:// in the printed
address - AND in e-mail.

I get SO annoyed at people who put urls in e-mail like this:
www.dotparagon.com because it is NOT hot-linked in my version of Eudora
(3-pro) ... and it just seems .. well, lazy ... and inconsiderate --- I put
it in the same mindset as people who sent HTML mail to a listserv-- ie,
clueless.

As far as stationary is concerned -- currently there are no "standards"
(Emily Post) .. not even for the spelling of e-mail (e-mail, email, Email
all seem accepted at this time). That said -- I include the http:// on all
my printed materials --- if your URL is really really long -- maybe not on
a business card.

But, like Frank said-- it's an image thing. *I* think they look naked
without the prefix. And I, too, have 20+ years as an award-winning
professional in the "writing, pr, advertising" side of business.

OTOH, just saw a URL "bumper sticker" on a panel truck -- it did not have
the http:// but the design was such that it looked ok.


Kathy

>At 21:06 28/05/98 -0700, Suz wrote:
>>
>>I think stationary can also be  formal or  informal -- whatever suits the
>>company and the image you're trying  to impart. IBM may be as formal a
>>corporate culture as exists in the nerd world, and http:// might be just
>>fine for IBM. But it would NEVER do on stationary for
>>slightly-off-the-wall-creative-types like the two of us here at
>>www.KickassDesign.com.
>
>
>One point I feel compelled to point out. I have been on this list for over
>2 years (real time - not net years) and I have been an employee of IBM
>since only November. Any comment or opinion I offer is purely my own
>opinion and is not related in any way, shape or form to IBM. That is not a
>formal disclaimer - my experience and knowledge go way beyond my duties at
>IBM. Rignt now, they just pay my salary. For how long? Until I get bored...
>
>And while we're on the subject, doesn't 20+ years as a multi-award winning
>advertising copywriter and creative director qualify me as a
>'slightly-off-the-wall-creative-type?'


At 6:02 PM +1000 5/30/98, franko wrote:
>At 09:40 29/05/98 -0700, Barry wrote:
>
>>
>>I thought we were talking about how to PRINT a URL on paper, not use it in
>>email...
>>
>>Your point is technically correct, of course. Though in Eudora Pro v4, both
>>are shown as a link.
>>
>
>Good point, though. Many small businesses now - my own included (Wired
>World, not IBM <grin>) keep all their stationery on computer and only print
>out when a hard copy is required. I've sent formal quotes, orders, etc on
>my letterhead, with my signature, electronically. In this case, since most
>word processing programs now have html capabilities, the web address is
>clickable from the letter.
>
>Oh and btw, Barry - yes I do have a tux. And half a dozen other suits, too.
>;-)
>
>There's one other point - not every browser automatically fills in the http
>and www for you. There are still some that you actually have to type in the
>right address yourself (shock! horror!).
>
>i know my copy of Grail does. What about Lynx? and Opera? do they?

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Kathy E. Gill, Guide - http://agriculture.miningco.com/
Publisher, eNetDigest - http://www.enetdigest.com/
WWW design � writing � training - http://www.dotparagon.com/

You must be the change you wish to see in the world. - Gandhi



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