Le 2011-09-26 à 07:36, Paul Yu a écrit : > My experience with hiring programmers. > > Type 1: Chasing after the next job. The only reason that they want your job > is so it prepares them for their next job. They want the acronyms of the day > to beef up their resume. These guys usually have a lot of acronyms and > certifications on their resume already. These people would not want to learn > WebObjects, and you probably don't want to hire these people for you lean > startup any way.
+1. And that's why, when doing interviews, I always ask people why they got in IT and if they participate in open source projects or other development stuff. If they said they are only programming for their job or they got in IT for the pay or they only program at their job, they loose points. > Type 2: Good programmers. Good programmers are hard to find in this very > competitive environment. Good programmers in the java space, when presented > with WebObjects will appreciate its elegance and want to learn it. However, > if I were a good programmer today, I would be learning iOS development first. > > The challenge that we face as a community is that Apple has pulled a lot of > people into their vortex. There are not many WebObjects ready people > available to help on projects any more. So even small startups like my own > will need to look at growing our own teams. As suggested, a good existing > project/program will help new people transition easier, but without good > training... This is a chicken-egg problem. Without the demand for the > training... We have to make WO "cool" again, so that means a new "WO in 5 minutes" presentation, a presentation tailored for iOS people, etc., and a presentation without some ugly French Canadian accent in it. > I wish this was easier... > > Paul > On Sep 26, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Marius Soutier wrote: > >> On 26.09.2011, at 12:57, Jim Kinsey wrote: >> >>> experienced JEE types who have all the certs under the Sun >> >> >> Nice one! :) >> >> I agree with you, people who know Java well and have at least basic Cocoa / >> CocoaTouch exp should be able to grasp WO rather quickly. >> >> I'll check out the Community Talk now, thanks for so much input. A good >> community is also a big plus :) >> >> >> - Marius >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/pyu%40mac.com >> >> This email sent to [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca > > This email sent to [email protected]
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