Indeed! If I switch off the OSCPool, it starts to work properly.

Thanks just again!

Nevertheless, I still must be missing something of grave importance, for with 
OCSPool (I use ), I would presume the SEC for the pool being currently used by 
the ERXEC would load the shared objects?

It does not: the global one does automatically load the shared objects, but the 
SEC-based one of ERXEC remains empty.

Note: the code in question does not run in a session context; it is performed 
at launch, before the first session is created. Might that be important perhaps?

All the best,
OC


> On 21 Aug 2018, at 9:42 PM, Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com> wrote:
> 
> Are you using the ERXObjectStoreCoordinatorPool?  It keeps one SEC per pool, 
> not one shared globally.  
> EOSharedEditingContext.defaultSharedEditingContext() is the global one.
>  
> Chuck
>  
> From: "ocs@ocs" <o...@ocs.cz <mailto:o...@ocs.cz>>
> Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 12:23 PM
> To: Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com <mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>>
> Cc: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>" 
> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>
> Subject: Re: Should ERXEC get sharedEC automagically?
>  
> P.S. It seems ERX completely ignores the default shared EC, using its own 
> one. If I try e.g., this:
>  
> ===
> println "The default sharedEC is 
> ${EOSharedEditingContext.defaultSharedEditingContext()}"
> 6.times {
>     def e=ERXEC.newEditingContext()
>     println "EC $e gets sec $e.sharedEditingContext"
> }
> println "The default sharedEC still is 
> ${EOSharedEditingContext.defaultSharedEditingContext()}"
> ===
>  
> it looks like this:
>  
> ===
> The default sharedEC is 
> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@26bbe604
> 2005 [main] INFO er.extensions.eof.ERXObjectStoreCoordinatorPool  - 
> initializing Pool...
> 2008 [main] INFO er.extensions.eof.ERXObjectStoreCoordinatorPool  - 
> initializing Pool finished
> EC er.extensions.eof.ERXEC@40e32762 gets sec 
> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@5875de6a
> EC er.extensions.eof.ERXEC@7d78f3d5 gets sec 
> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@5875de6a
> EC er.extensions.eof.ERXEC@f5b6e78 gets sec 
> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@5875de6a
> EC er.extensions.eof.ERXEC@71926a36 gets sec 
> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@5875de6a
> EC er.extensions.eof.ERXEC@48976e6d gets sec 
> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@5875de6a
> EC er.extensions.eof.ERXEC@7f6874f2 gets sec 
> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@5875de6a
> The default sharedEC still is 
> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOSharedEditingContext@26bbe604
> ===
>  
> Thanks and all the best,
> OC
> 
> 
> On 21 Aug 2018, at 9:07 PM, ocs@ocs <o...@ocs.cz <mailto:o...@ocs.cz>> wrote:
>  
> Chuck, 
>  
> sorry, I did not describe the problem clearly enough...
> 
> 
> On 21 Aug 2018, at 8:39 PM, Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com 
> <mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>> wrote:
> Once an EC has objects in it, its shared EC won’t get changed if a new 
> default is set.  The notification is ignored.
>  
> Quite, but that's not the problem.
>  
> With EOEditingContext, it works like this:
>  
> (i) ec created, has no sharedEC (ec.sharedEditingContext==null)
> (ii) (due to something which creates a DBContext, I believe) the default 
> sharedEC is initialized; it loads the shared objects, and sends the 
> notification
> (iii) ec observes the notification, and sets the default sharedEC as its own 
> sharedEC (for it is still empty)
> (iv) now, ec fetches the objects — automatically giving shared ones from its 
> sharedEC, which does contain them
>  
> With ERXEC (and ERXEC.useSharedEditingContext=true), there's an important 
> difference:
>  
> (i) erxec created, immediately gets a sharedEC 
> (ec.sharedEditingContext!=null). This sharedEC differs from the default 
> shared EC
> (ii) (due to something which creates a DBContext, I believe) the default 
> sharedEC is initialized; it loads the shared objects, and sends the 
> notification
> (iii) erxec (although still empty) does nothing, it already has a sharedEC, 
> different from the default one
> (iv) now, erxec fetches the objects — would automatically give shared ones 
> from its sharedEC, which, alas, contains nothing (the default one does).
>  
> Thanks and all the best,
> OC
>  
> 
> 
>  
> From: "ocs@ocs" <o...@ocs.cz <mailto:o...@ocs.cz>>
> Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 11:21 AM
> To: Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com <mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>>
> Cc: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>" 
> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>
> Subject: Re: Should ERXEC get sharedEC automagically?
>  
> Chuck,
> 
> 
> 
> On 21 Aug 2018, at 7:50 PM, Chuck Hill <ch...@gevityinc.com 
> <mailto:ch...@gevityinc.com>> wrote:
>  
> See er.extensions.ERXEC.useSharedEditingContext at 
> https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Explanation+of+the+default+properties+in+a+Wonder+project
>  
> <https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Explanation+of+the+default+properties+in+a+Wonder+project>
>  
> Thanks a lot!
>  
> (Why on earth don't they mention this on the ERXEC documentation page? Oh, 
> never mind.)
> 
> 
> 
> Did that fix it?
>  
> Well, sort of.
>  
> It gets curiouser and curiouser — in other words, I must be doing something 
> far wrong.
>  
> When I set the “ERXEC.useSharedEditingContext” property to true, then
>  
> - the newly created ERXEC gets a shared editing context immediately upon 
> creation, not later upon receiving 
> DefaultSharedEditingContextWasInitializedNotification;
> - and it is a different shared EC instance, not 
> EOSharedEditingContext.defaultSharedEditingContext()
> - but it is EOSharedEditingContext.defaultSharedEditingContext() who reads in 
> automatically all the shared EOs
> - and therefore, when fetching EOs through the ERXEC, I am still getting 
> non-shared ones in the ERXEC (for its own sharedEC is empty, and thus 
> EOSharedEditingContext.defaultSharedEditingContext is ignored).
>  
> Can you make any sense of that?
>  
> Thanks again a very big lot,
> OC
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On 2018-08-21, 9:43 AM, "Webobjects-dev on behalf of ocs@ocs" 
> <webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com 
> <mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+chill=gevityinc....@lists.apple.com> on behalf 
> of o...@ocs.cz <mailto:o...@ocs.cz>> wrote:
> 
>    Hi there,
> 
>    the EOEditing context doc pretty unequivocally says
> 
>    ===
>    By default, an editing context that has no shared editing context listens 
> for DefaultSharedEditingContextWasInitializedNotifications. If a notification 
> is posted while the context has no registered objects, the editing context 
> sets its shared editing context to the newly initialized default shared 
> editing context.
>    ===
> 
>    Should it apply for an ERXEC, too? I sort of inferred it would, but by my 
> testing, it does not seem so: an ERXEC I make (through 
> ERXEC.newEditingContext()) seems to adamantly stay without 
> sharedEditingContext, although the notification is posted all right (I have 
> observed it myself to be sure), and if there's a good ole EOEditingContext, 
> it indeed duly sets its sharedEC at the time.
> 
>    Have I missed something of importance somewhere? The ERXEC documentation 
> does not say essentially anything of the sharedEC, far as I can say:
> 
>    http://wonder.sourceforge.net/javadoc/er/extensions/ERXEC.html 
> <http://wonder.sourceforge.net/javadoc/er/extensions/ERXEC.html>
> 
>    In principle, I could work around the problem by setting the sharedEC to 
> all my ERXECs programmatically -- that works all right --, but it would be a 
> lot of work, with a danger I overlook something somewhere and got bit in the 
> tender parts by that...
> 
>    Thanks,
>    OC
> 
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