On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Anand Chitipothu <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I don't understand why it's still being done privately. I mostly don't
>> understand why so much time has been spent. The design should just be
>> done already. The documentation is like 80% of webpy.org and its in an
>> even sorrier state than the design. I've now brought that up in each
>> mail and keep receiving rehashed mockups sans any input on, well,
>> anything else that constitutes a quality, usable website. This site
>> needs to operate optimally for the developer scavenging for docs at
>> 2AM the night before a project /needs/ to be done. The entire redesign
>> so far has addressed the "first impression" and nothing else.
>
> Please stop flame wars. I don't see how somebody working on a layout
> in private is an issue. It is good to show progress to people, but I
> don't see anything wrong anywhere.

Now that the design has matured over a six month period, where does
the search box go? Back to the drawing board?

> Yes, documentation is not in a good state. Feel free to improve it.

The problem is that all of these aspects are interrelated. A better
user system might be a catalyst for more organized documentation. The
contents of the navigation bar might put beneficial constraints on
where our efforts are focused. I've mentioned that I've begun
reprocessing the docs under different but similar names (i.e.
/installation instead of /install) in order to seamlessly transition
to a new structure. However, this will all be in vein if said
structure has no chance of being adopted by the default site template.

> Well, that is not an approved design. That was his proposal.
> Angelo, please stop discouraging people doing constructive work.
>
> Yes, there are things that you didn't like in that design. Please
> suggest the modifications instead of criticizing.

On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Branko Vukelic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Although I will probably inevitably end up sounding like a fascist, I
> don't think a public vote should be the principal decision-making
> mechanism in projects like this. It's better that everyone simply
> takes a look at the work-in-progress stuff and contribute their ideas.

It's hard to be cordial when my suggestions of essentially keeping
nothing and changing everything are being sent to an entrenched artist
who is commandeering the project under a blurry portrayal of having
been greenlighted by you. But I tried! I wrapped up my proposal and
itemized the changes /that could obviously be made under any design
scheme/.

> With all due respect, Angleo, I'm starting to get a feeling you are
> trying to prove something here, which is not necessarily a
> constructive approach, and certainly doesn't leave a good impression.

I'm just trying to get webpy.org functioning like a website made by a
community of website makers.

-- 
Angelo Gladding
[email protected]
http://angelo.gladding.name/

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