On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Pablo Antonio <[email protected]> wrote: > I think everyone should stop critizising in an unconstructive way > everyone else's work.
This is where it all fell apart. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Branko Vukelic <[email protected]> wrote: > With all due respect, Angleo, I'm starting to get a feeling you are > trying to prove something here, which is not necessarily a > constructive approach, and certainly doesn't leave a good impression. > > And just in case my gut feeling is correct, I will tell you this. You > could have simply said "I think you guys are slow and/or don't know > what you're doing. Look at how complete a solution I can provide in > time it took you to just experiment with a few color schemes and some > shitty snake graphic." I would have appreciated such a response better > than "Here's some stats so go figure." Very rude. So, you see, in response to a thorough itemization of features that could be absorbed into /any/ color scheme or layout I received an explicit request for the harsh attitude I took in my last post. Keep in mind that Justin's HTML is a pixel for pixel implementation of Branko's most recent mockup [2] — which is conspicuously referred to as `minimalist` might I add. [1]: http://boxily.com:8888/ [2]: http://foxbunny.tumblr.com/post/351166368/webpy-mockup-3rd-version-cleaned-up-white > I still don't understand why all this new styling work was being done > "privately". I think, as I said in a previous email, we should find a > way to capitalize all this interest in the redesign so that everyone can > give a hand. There are many things to do: Rewriting and/or creating new > documentation, organize the new pages in a proper way, make the site > more usable, make it look better, etc. And I think, being this a > volunteers-driven project, that we cannot afford to lose any help anyone > wants to give. I don't understand why it's still being done privately. I mostly don't understand why so much time has been spent. The design should just be done already. The documentation is like 80% of webpy.org and its in an even sorrier state than the design. I've now brought that up in each mail and keep receiving rehashed mockups sans any input on, well, anything else that constitutes a quality, usable website. This site needs to operate optimally for the developer scavenging for docs at 2AM the night before a project /needs/ to be done. The entire redesign so far has addressed the "first impression" and nothing else. > I'd like to ask Angelo to stay calm and refer to others' work in a > more friendly and respectful manner. And Branko and Justin to keep > showing what they're doing and consider letting other people join them. The site template is just plain old semantic HTML in the document order it should be no matter the styling. I estimate it'd take no more than 50 lines of CSS to take 75% of the work I did and make it look pixel for pixel like the mockups — keeping 100% of the usability enhancements. Its there if the annointed have any desire in using it. The assets will remain online in the short term. Good luck with the rest of the changes. Oh and can someone explain why `web.py` is now a trademark? Bah. -- Angelo Gladding [email protected] http://angelo.gladding.name/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web.py" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/webpy?hl=en.
