I don't see any difference of how redesigns (http://i.imgur.com/
Eq5kN.png vs
http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://foxbunny.tumblr.com/post/351166368/webpy-mockup-3rd-version-cleaned-up-white&usg=AFQjCNHTO-AgjhVRju09ClA3FX9ruK044A)
have been done. For me both of them have been done privately.

The 1st one looks more semantically clean, with html5 and
microformats, and without gradients and Comic-Sans-like title. The
only feature I request is code highlight.


On Jan 25, 10:47 am, Angelo Gladding <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Pablo Antonio <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I think everyone should stop critizising in an unconstructive way
> > everyone else's work.
>
> This is where it all fell apart.
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Branko Vukelic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > With all due respect, Angleo, I'm starting to get a feeling you are
> > trying to prove something here, which is not necessarily a
> > constructive approach, and certainly doesn't leave a good impression.
>
> > And just in case my gut feeling is correct, I will tell you this. You
> > could have simply said "I think you guys are slow and/or don't know
> > what you're doing. Look at how complete a solution I can provide in
> > time it took you to just experiment with a few color schemes and some
> > shitty snake graphic." I would have appreciated such a response better
> > than "Here's some stats so go figure." Very rude.
>
> So, you see, in response to a thorough itemization of features that
> could be absorbed into /any/ color scheme or layout I received an
> explicit request for the harsh attitude I took in my last post. Keep
> in mind that Justin's HTML is a pixel for pixel implementation of
> Branko's most recent mockup [2] — which is conspicuously referred to
> as `minimalist` might I add.
>
> [1]:http://boxily.com:8888/
> [2]:http://foxbunny.tumblr.com/post/351166368/webpy-mockup-3rd-version-cl...
>
> > I still don't understand why all this new styling work was being done
> > "privately". I think, as I said in a previous email, we should find a
> > way to capitalize all this interest in the redesign so that everyone can
> > give a hand. There are many things to do: Rewriting and/or creating new
> > documentation, organize the new pages in a proper way, make the site
> > more usable, make it look better, etc. And I think, being this a
> > volunteers-driven project, that we cannot afford to lose any help anyone
> > wants to give.
>
> I don't understand why it's still being done privately. I mostly don't
> understand why so much time has been spent. The design should just be
> done already. The documentation is like 80% of webpy.org and its in an
> even sorrier state than the design. I've now brought that up in each
> mail and keep receiving rehashed mockups sans any input on, well,
> anything else that constitutes a quality, usable website. This site
> needs to operate optimally for the developer scavenging for docs at
> 2AM the night before a project /needs/ to be done. The entire redesign
> so far has addressed the "first impression" and nothing else.
>
> > I'd like to ask Angelo to stay calm and refer to others' work in a
> > more friendly and respectful manner. And Branko and Justin to keep
> > showing what they're doing and consider letting other people join them.
>
> The site template is just plain old semantic HTML in the document
> order it should be no matter the styling. I estimate it'd take no more
> than 50 lines of CSS to take 75% of the work I did and make it look
> pixel for pixel like the mockups — keeping 100% of the usability
> enhancements. Its there if the annointed have any desire in using it.
> The assets will remain online in the short term. Good luck with the
> rest of the changes.
>
> Oh and can someone explain why `web.py` is now a trademark? Bah.
>
> --
> Angelo Gladding
> [email protected]http://angelo.gladding.name/

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