On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 18:01 +0100, Italo Vignoli wrote: > On 1/18/11 5:20 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: > > > And no, they - meaning the SC - absolutely cannot claim ignorance, > > Michael was discussing their progress on the lists for a long time. > > Someone from the SC should have taken him aside as soon as they saw what > > was happening. > > I am a SC member, and I have not seen any mention of the progress of the > web site on a mailing list pertaining to the SC.
A sentence parsed in such a way as to make any politician happy. > I have subscribed to > the website mailing list when I have realized that the website group was > totally disconnected from the SC. Sorry, it seems to me that was the other way round . > Sorry, but you cannot assume that > everyone is reading every mailing list message, as we are volunteers and > we have a professional and a personal life. > > Communities do not behave like companies. They are moving slowly because > it is mandatory to reach consensus before making a step further ... News to me, and I don't believe it is born out by the facts. > So, I have recognized SC > mistakes, but in this specific domain everyone has made mistakes and > accepting this is a sign of maturity. Yes I would agree with that. > > In another message, Please don't mix like this - you have been asked to issue an apology to Micheal that is the crux of this mail thread. > I have asked five questions. They might look silly, > but as I have explained it is necessary that they get an answer. Please > assume that SC members are totally ignorant of the "23 roles", and that > this is not their fault but a fault of the people that have decided > about the "23 roles" without being sure that the concept was shared and > agreed by everyone. > > I am deeply sorry for the time spent by volunteers on a project which is > not reaching his objectives, but it is overly simplistic to put the > blame only on the SC. Yes I would agree when using the word blame, but the responsibility ends at the SC - you don't get to self-appoint yourselves the final authority and then side step the responsibility that comes with that. > We are humans, and because of this simple fact it > is a mistake to assume that we can be informed of everything inside a > project. Someone has made this mistake. I'm not even sure how to speak to this, this issue has been huge for the last 3 months. I know that given the nature of the endeavor here that from time to time people are not able to focus here, but this has spread over a pretty lengthy time and has permeated a great many discussions on a myriad of subjects, it's just hard to see how you missed it. Thanks Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
