Hello everyone,

I've read several comments about the SC shunning away from its 
responsibilities. 
I think it would be fair to remember that the SC is a group of people (who are 
not perfect) who had the guts to break away from Oracle. They had the guts to 
leave a project they had been contributing to for years (sometimes more than 
ten) and to face difficulties, uncertainty, doubt, the hatred feelings of 
people they had been working with (some Oracle employees). The SC members got a 
vision and are working hard to achieve it. 


To say that we shun away from our responsibilities is I think unfair. But we 
certainly made mistakes. One of them is that we felt a website team could 
organize itself and that the mailing lists in general could run smoothly. It 
was often the case that it worked (and it's working) but when it comes to the 
website, it's obviously not true. We should have understood that something was 
wrong when the Drupal fans continued to discuss, unabashed and unfazed by the 
results of the CMS platform contest that had *clearly* nominated Silverstripe 
and tagged Drupal as *an option in the future*. We should have shouted and 
taken clear actions when we saw this website was being sunken into unproductive 
messages about a solution we hadn't picked but that some people felt they were 
still entitled to pursue. 


I am going therefore to apologize to several people and for several things (see 
below). One thing I'm not going to apologize for, however, is to have a written 
and recorded decision that the SC chose one solution that some people haven't 
read about or listened to. Our message was clear ever since the beginning: 
Silverstripe, and perhaps, later, Drupal. We cannot be blamed for the mistakes 
of other people. 


What I want to apologize for is the wasted time, of the present website team, 
for the people who contributed to the LibreOffice.org website and who invested 
a lot of their time and energy in it. Their work is of course not lost, since 
we're proud to have a libreoffice.org website. But I'm sorry they had to cope 
with all this incessant discussions and a seeming silence from the side of the 
SC. I would also like to apologize to the general public because while we're 
dealing with these kinds of issues, we're not advancing as fast as we want on 
others. I would, last but not least, apologize to the SC members, because I 
felt my time was -during a certain period before 2011- better spent on 
completely different issues. I should have stated and "barked" the obvious. But 
then since it was the obvious, I felt it didn't need to be barked. 


To all; I would like us to come back into a productive mood. We're here to 
contribute to our present website, not to something else someone feels should 
be better. There's plenty of ideas out there, plenty of people who would rather 
have us do something completely different: but at the end of the day, we work 
on one project, LibreOffice and comments, "do this" & "you should do that" are 
not really welcome here. 


Expect a more hands-on approach of this mailing list. We're grateful for 
contributions, but we're not here to stand the desires of people who cannot 
understand that Free Software does not equal chaos and always following their 
decisions. The Steering Committee (and soon the Board of Directors) is here to 
take decisions as well as other entities (see our bylaws). We're not 
dictatorial, because we owe you transparency and that our bylaws clearly show 
no one can have absolute or even too much powers. But what we want to set is an 
atmosphere in mailing lists that are focused on contributions and not on 
fruitless discussions. 


In the end, all of our actions, individually, collectively, can only be 
measured on one criteria: contribution. This is the way we move forward, this 
is why we are "Libre". 


Thank you,


Charles-H. Schulz.

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On mardi 18 janvier 2011 at 21:03, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote:

> Hi Andrea,
> Am 18.01.2011 20:20, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> 
> > Italo Vignoli wrote:
> > 
> > > I have seen mentions of these "23 roles" many times, but I have not seen
> > > a list where they are described in detail. It looks like they have been
> > > developed without even asking the SC members - or the group of the
> > > founders - if this was the right approach.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Since nobody provides the link (the one Klaus-Jürgen sent was not
> > working for me... a problem at mail-archive.com, perhaps?)
> > 
> > 
> Sorry for this: I took the <Archived at:>-link from the email, but I 
> didn't check it. My fault.
> 
> 
> > , this is the
> > message that started the discussion about the "23 roles":
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg01680.html
> > 
> > 
> Mine was: 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg01683.html in the 
> same thread. There are all 23 "roles" described.
> 
> -- 
> greetings
> k-j
> 
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