Jan Chalupa wrote: > Ludovic Champenois wrote: >> Frank Jennings wrote: >>> Hello everyone, >>> I'm Frank from the Solaris Developer IP group. I'm collecting Web >>> Stack specific information for publishing in NetBeans site. >>> Please visit the following link: >>> >>> http://www.jennings.in/wstack/NB_WebStack_Draft2.pdf >>> >>> for a PDF containing information on getting started with NetBeans >>> for Web App. development. The information and instructions are >>> specific to Web Stack available through SXDE 1/08. It is not a >>> marketing doc or a Web Stack-NB reference manual. It is just a quick >>> start guide that NetBeans community will need to consider using >>> NetBeans on Solaris for web development. >>> >>> The document is targeted for existing NetBeans users and web >>> application developers. >>> >>> Please review the document and send me any information that needs to >>> be included in this guide. The final guide will be available on >>> NetBeans wiki site post SXDE 1/08. >>> >>> (Re-sending the mail as my earlier mail bounced back due to the >>> large PDF (~2MB)). >>> >> >> Hi, >> Good tutorial. > > Agreed. Good job, Frank! > >> 1 point: >> not sure why you do not use the "NetBeans PHP" IDE configuration >> available in the SXDE start menu (close to the NetBeans 6.0" menu). >> (Maybe the first paragraph should show where are the menus to start >> the stack and Nb6 or Nb php on the desktop.) >> The Nb PHP is a preconfigured NB setup that only exposes the PHP >> support. >> you do not need to download the PHP modules. This is a very >> attractive combination when you do not want as a PHP developer to >> have an IDE that can do java, javaee, uml, ruby, etc. This simple PHP >> configuration also allows you to declare mySql or Postgres databases >> since the drivers are registered in the IDE. It starts very very >> fast, compare to the complete Nb6. > > I tend to think that the "NB PHP IDE" is an exception that should > disappear after SXDE 1/08. We already heard from users who were > confused why there are two NetBeans IDEs in SXDE. That might be internal users (Java gurus?), since there is no public builds of this configuration. I did not see evidence yet of the confusion on this mailing list. > If there's a concern that PHP (or Ruby, or C/C++) users won't use a > full IDE, there should be another way to let them use only the > functionality they need. Yes, most of the PHP developers I talked to (many at the Zend PHP conference) will not accept a PHP IDE that have also Java/EE/UML/Profiler capabilities as well. This is a completely different crowd, really. That's why we have this setup right now. In the future IPS opensolaris repository, there must be a way to download only the NB clusters you need. I think this is what we will have.
Ludo > >> For NB 6.0, you are correct, it can be extended to add the php >> module from update center. This complete IDE can also do web apps, >> jruby etc. >> >> Showing Postgres via NetBeans is good, but maybe we should add a >> chapter about MySQL which is part of SXDE and that can start/stop >> with the Apache2 server via the Desktop Start menu. NB has the MySQL >> JDBC driver, and the NB PHP edition has also the DB capabilities. >> MySQL is the new big thing in SXDE 01/08 :-) > > I absolutely agree. I know there was a reason why the documentation > was focusing on integration with Postgres, but a good MySQL > documentation is also a priority. Especially now. > > -Honza > >> Ludo >> >>> Regards >>> Frank J >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> webstack-discuss mailing list >>> webstack-discuss at opensolaris.org >>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/webstack-discuss >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> webstack-discuss mailing list >> webstack-discuss at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/webstack-discuss
