Frank Jennings wrote: > While NetBeans PHP IDE 6.0 on the menu just after NetBeans IDE 6.0 looks > quite redundant, it might be useful if the IDE has everything 'related > to PHP' pre-configured. > I know NB users need not download the PHP plug-in separately when using > this invocation. But they still need to configure Apache Server in the > Services tab. Since Apache path and PHP path is known, can we also > pre-configure Apache server for NB? Does NetBeans support bundling a > pre-configured server runtime?
In SXDE, NetBeans should be able to detect and pre-configure the Apache Server. I don't think we want to bundle the server with NetBeans, as it's already part of SXDE or the Indiana distro. -Honza > Jan Chalupa wrote: >> Ludovic Champenois wrote: >> >>> Jan Chalupa wrote: >>> >>>> Ludovic Champenois wrote: >>>> >>>>> Frank Jennings wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>> I'm Frank from the Solaris Developer IP group. I'm collecting Web >>>>>> Stack specific information for publishing in NetBeans site. >>>>>> Please visit the following link: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.jennings.in/wstack/NB_WebStack_Draft2.pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> for a PDF containing information on getting started with NetBeans >>>>>> for Web App. development. The information and instructions are >>>>>> specific to Web Stack available through SXDE 1/08. It is not a >>>>>> marketing doc or a Web Stack-NB reference manual. It is just a >>>>>> quick start guide that NetBeans community will need to consider >>>>>> using NetBeans on Solaris for web development. >>>>>> >>>>>> The document is targeted for existing NetBeans users and web >>>>>> application developers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please review the document and send me any information that needs >>>>>> to be included in this guide. The final guide will be available on >>>>>> NetBeans wiki site post SXDE 1/08. >>>>>> >>>>>> (Re-sending the mail as my earlier mail bounced back due to the >>>>>> large PDF (~2MB)). >>>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> Good tutorial. >>>>> >>>> Agreed. Good job, Frank! >>>> >>>> >>>>> 1 point: >>>>> not sure why you do not use the "NetBeans PHP" IDE configuration >>>>> available in the SXDE start menu (close to the NetBeans 6.0" menu). >>>>> (Maybe the first paragraph should show where are the menus to start >>>>> the stack and Nb6 or Nb php on the desktop.) >>>>> The Nb PHP is a preconfigured NB setup that only exposes the PHP >>>>> support. >>>>> you do not need to download the PHP modules. This is a very >>>>> attractive combination when you do not want as a PHP developer to >>>>> have an IDE that can do java, javaee, uml, ruby, etc. This simple >>>>> PHP configuration also allows you to declare mySql or Postgres >>>>> databases since the drivers are registered in the IDE. It starts >>>>> very very fast, compare to the complete Nb6. >>>>> >>>> I tend to think that the "NB PHP IDE" is an exception that should >>>> disappear after SXDE 1/08. We already heard from users who were >>>> confused why there are two NetBeans IDEs in SXDE. >>> That might be internal users (Java gurus?), since there is no public >>> builds of this configuration. I did not see evidence yet of the >>> confusion on this mailing list. >>> >> >> That's right. They were internal users. >> >> >>>> If there's a concern that PHP (or Ruby, or C/C++) users won't use a >>>> full IDE, there should be another way to let them use only the >>>> functionality they need. >>>> >>> Yes, most of the PHP developers I talked to (many at the Zend PHP >>> conference) will not accept a PHP IDE that have also >>> Java/EE/UML/Profiler capabilities as well. This is a completely >>> different crowd, really. That's why we have this setup right now. >>> >> >> Yes, we're aware of it. The Ruby/Rails crowd is very similar in this >> regard. I'm not underestimating it. >> >> >>> In the future IPS opensolaris repository, there must be a way to >>> download only the NB clusters you need. I think this is what we will >>> have. >>> >> >> I think the user should be able to select the "NetBeans PHP" package >> which would bring in all necessary dependencies and result in a >> minimalistic PHP IDE. >> >> Thanks, >> -Honza >> >> >> >>> Ludo >>> >>> >>>>> For NB 6.0, you are correct, it can be extended to add the php >>>>> module from update center. This complete IDE can also do web apps, >>>>> jruby etc. >>>>> >>>>> Showing Postgres via NetBeans is good, but maybe we should add a >>>>> chapter about MySQL which is part of SXDE and that can start/stop >>>>> with the Apache2 server via the Desktop Start menu. NB has the >>>>> MySQL JDBC driver, and the NB PHP edition has also the DB >>>>> capabilities. >>>>> MySQL is the new big thing in SXDE 01/08 :-) >>>>> >>>> I absolutely agree. I know there was a reason why the documentation >>>> was focusing on integration with Postgres, but a good MySQL >>>> documentation is also a priority. Especially now. >>>> >>>> -Honza >>>> >>>> >>>>> Ludo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Frank J >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> webstack-discuss mailing list >>>>>> webstack-discuss at opensolaris.org >>>>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/webstack-discuss >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> webstack-discuss mailing list >>>>> webstack-discuss at opensolaris.org >>>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/webstack-discuss >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> webstack-discuss mailing list >> webstack-discuss at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/webstack-discuss >> >
