David,
Regarding your general comment - I have seen and used Web Stack options
GUI. This doc evolved over a span of several builds and I might have
missed some steps. But in the doc. I couldn't find the place where I
have asked anyone to download NB. But will look again.
Thank you again for the valuable feedback. I will also point to the
NetBeans Solaris wiki page.
Frank J
David Van Couvering wrote:
> Hi Frank, sorry I didn't respond sooner, I didn't catch your email
> until just now. Here are my comments:
>
> A general comment: Some of your statements made it pretty clear to me
> that you haven't been playing around with the webstack admin tools or
> NetBeans 6 in build 79 or 79a (for example, you say you need to
> install NetBeans 6 and the PHP and Ruby plugins, which isn't the
> case). Please test your documentation against the features that are
> there to make sure it's accurate.
>
> Page 4
> - The picture showing database support should include Java DB, as we
> have strong support for it in NB and it is also a Sun-supported
> database that meets a definite set of needs for our developers
>
> Page 5
> - You only mention PostgreSQL. Should probably mention all or none of
> the databases by name. If you want one, MySQL would be my first
> choice.
> - For SXDE 01/08, NetBeans is already installed. JDK 5 is also there.
> So I think it's confusing to say you will need these
> - You tell people to go to Services tab and register Apache Web
> Server, but before you do that, you need to do All Applications ->
> Developer Tools -> Web Stack Admin -> Initialize Web Stack, and then
> do Web Stack Admin -> Start Apache2/MySQL Servers
> - You don't need to do manual configuration of Apache. Run Find
> Server and after about a minute it will find the Apache Server and
> set everything correctly
> - You should provide instructions on how to set permissions, e.g. "su
> root" and then "chmod a+w /var/apache2/2.2/htdocs"
>
> Page 11
> - You can enable debug directly from the Web Stack Admin menu without
> having to edit the ini file. Choose Web Stack Admin -> Options and
> select the PHP tab and set the checkbox for "PHP Debugger". This tab
> also lets you directly edit the ini file by clicking on "Advanced
> Configuration"
>
> Page 12
> - PHP plugin *is* available with Solaris, see All
> Applications->Developer Tools->NetBeans PHP IDE 6.0
>
> Page 14
> - You don't need to start Apache Web server using svcadm, it's
> available through the web stack admin tools
>
> Page 16
> - You should provide instructions on how to make the Ruby gem
> repository writeable ("su root" and "chmod -R a+w
> /var/ruby/1.8/gem_home"), and how to install Ruby on Rails
> (Tools->Gems, then install Ruby on Rails, making *sure* you install
> Ruby on Rails 1.x rather than 2.x). Also, note you can install Rails
> directly from NetBeans, rather than from the command line.
>
> Page 18
> - NetBeans 6.0 on Solaris *comes* with Ruby support, you don't need to
> install it via the plugin manager.
>
> Page 20
> - The PostgreSQL driver is *not* pre-installed with NetBeans Ruby
> support. You need to install the postgres-pr Ruby gem using the Gem
> Manager
> - When using PostgreSQL with JRuby (not native Ruby), you need to edit
> the database.yml file and uncomment the lines that start with "host"
> and "port", otherwise Ruby access to PostgreSQL will fail
>
> Page 22
> - We do not *support* all the databases you list. We have users using
> them. The official list of database drivers that we test and support
> can be found at http://wiki.netbeans.org/DatabasesAndDrivers.
>
> - Initial setup of PostgreSQL is quite easy in 01/08:
> * su root
> * svcadm enable postgresql:version_)82
> That's it. This automatically sets up the data directory and
> initializes the database as part of starting the service.
>
> Page 24
> - The default password for Postgres is an empty password, not 'postgres'
>
> Page 26
> - *Please* don't guide users towards "Design Query". This
> functionality is limited and somewhat broken. Just have them use
> "Execute Command..." and work with the straight SQL editor
>
> Page 27
> - I recommend putting MySQL ahead of PostgreSQL given it's import in
> the AMP stack and our recent acquisition.
> - Please just have people start MySQL from the webstack tool menu, no
> point bothering them with svcadm. At a minimum, put the svcadm
> instructions second, not first.
>
> Page 28
> - You should indicate that the default user/password for MySQL is
> "root/<empty>", and that there is no database name available
> initially.
> - Change "like PostgreSQL" to "like MySQL"
> - "Updating the D" should be "Updating the DB"
>
> Page 35
> - Why don't you point to the Wiki page I set up for NB and Solaris, at
> http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansAndSolarisHowTos. Nothing there yet,
> but there will be in time for the release (although your doc has
> covered a lot of it, thanks!)
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 25, 2008 9:04 PM, Frank Jennings <Frank.Jennings at sun.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I'm Frank from the Solaris Developer IP group. I'm collecting Web Stack
>> specific information for publishing in NetBeans site.
>> Please visit the following link:
>>
>> http://www.jennings.in/wstack/NB_WebStack_Draft2.pdf
>>
>> for a PDF containing information on getting started with NetBeans for
>> Web App. development. The information and instructions are specific to
>> Web Stack available through SXDE 1/08. It is not a marketing doc or a
>> Web Stack-NB reference manual. It is just a quick start guide that
>> NetBeans community will need to consider using NetBeans on Solaris for
>> web development.
>>
>> The document is targeted for existing NetBeans users and web application
>> developers.
>>
>> Please review the document and send me any information that needs to be
>> included in this guide. The final guide will be available on NetBeans
>> wiki site post SXDE 1/08.
>>
>> (Re-sending the mail as my earlier mail bounced back due to the large
>> PDF (~2MB)).
>>
>> Regards
>> Frank J
>>
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