While NetBeans PHP IDE 6.0 on the menu just after NetBeans IDE 6.0 looks quite redundant, it might be useful if the IDE has everything 'related to PHP' pre-configured. I know NB users need not download the PHP plug-in separately when using this invocation. But they still need to configure Apache Server in the Services tab. Since Apache path and PHP path is known, can we also pre-configure Apache server for NB? Does NetBeans support bundling a pre-configured server runtime?
Jan Chalupa wrote: > Ludovic Champenois wrote: > >> Jan Chalupa wrote: >> >>> Ludovic Champenois wrote: >>> >>>> Frank Jennings wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> I'm Frank from the Solaris Developer IP group. I'm collecting Web >>>>> Stack specific information for publishing in NetBeans site. >>>>> Please visit the following link: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.jennings.in/wstack/NB_WebStack_Draft2.pdf >>>>> >>>>> for a PDF containing information on getting started with NetBeans >>>>> for Web App. development. The information and instructions are >>>>> specific to Web Stack available through SXDE 1/08. It is not a >>>>> marketing doc or a Web Stack-NB reference manual. It is just a quick >>>>> start guide that NetBeans community will need to consider using >>>>> NetBeans on Solaris for web development. >>>>> >>>>> The document is targeted for existing NetBeans users and web >>>>> application developers. >>>>> >>>>> Please review the document and send me any information that needs to >>>>> be included in this guide. The final guide will be available on >>>>> NetBeans wiki site post SXDE 1/08. >>>>> >>>>> (Re-sending the mail as my earlier mail bounced back due to the >>>>> large PDF (~2MB)). >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Good tutorial. >>>> >>> Agreed. Good job, Frank! >>> >>> >>>> 1 point: >>>> not sure why you do not use the "NetBeans PHP" IDE configuration >>>> available in the SXDE start menu (close to the NetBeans 6.0" menu). >>>> (Maybe the first paragraph should show where are the menus to start >>>> the stack and Nb6 or Nb php on the desktop.) >>>> The Nb PHP is a preconfigured NB setup that only exposes the PHP >>>> support. >>>> you do not need to download the PHP modules. This is a very >>>> attractive combination when you do not want as a PHP developer to >>>> have an IDE that can do java, javaee, uml, ruby, etc. This simple PHP >>>> configuration also allows you to declare mySql or Postgres databases >>>> since the drivers are registered in the IDE. It starts very very >>>> fast, compare to the complete Nb6. >>>> >>> I tend to think that the "NB PHP IDE" is an exception that should >>> disappear after SXDE 1/08. We already heard from users who were >>> confused why there are two NetBeans IDEs in SXDE. >>> >> That might be internal users (Java gurus?), since there is no public >> builds of this configuration. I did not see evidence yet of the >> confusion on this mailing list. >> > > That's right. They were internal users. > > >>> If there's a concern that PHP (or Ruby, or C/C++) users won't use a >>> full IDE, there should be another way to let them use only the >>> functionality they need. >>> >> Yes, most of the PHP developers I talked to (many at the Zend PHP >> conference) will not accept a PHP IDE that have also >> Java/EE/UML/Profiler capabilities as well. This is a completely >> different crowd, really. That's why we have this setup right now. >> > > Yes, we're aware of it. The Ruby/Rails crowd is very similar in this > regard. I'm not underestimating it. > > >> In the future IPS opensolaris repository, there must be a way to >> download only the NB clusters you need. I think this is what we will have. >> > > I think the user should be able to select the "NetBeans PHP" package > which would bring in all necessary dependencies and result in a > minimalistic PHP IDE. > > Thanks, > -Honza > > > >> Ludo >> >> >>>> For NB 6.0, you are correct, it can be extended to add the php >>>> module from update center. This complete IDE can also do web apps, >>>> jruby etc. >>>> >>>> Showing Postgres via NetBeans is good, but maybe we should add a >>>> chapter about MySQL which is part of SXDE and that can start/stop >>>> with the Apache2 server via the Desktop Start menu. NB has the MySQL >>>> JDBC driver, and the NB PHP edition has also the DB capabilities. >>>> MySQL is the new big thing in SXDE 01/08 :-) >>>> >>> I absolutely agree. I know there was a reason why the documentation >>> was focusing on integration with Postgres, but a good MySQL >>> documentation is also a priority. Especially now. >>> >>> -Honza >>> >>> >>>> Ludo >>>> >>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Frank J >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> webstack-discuss mailing list >>>>> webstack-discuss at opensolaris.org >>>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/webstack-discuss >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> webstack-discuss mailing list >>>> webstack-discuss at opensolaris.org >>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/webstack-discuss >>>> > _______________________________________________ > > > webstack-discuss mailing list > webstack-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/webstack-discuss >
