Excellent job!  You da man.

Larry


-----Original Message-----
From: Kepa Zubeldia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:38 AM
To: WEDI SNIP Testing Subworkgroup List
Subject: Re: VALIDATION or Certification


Sunny,

It was never my intention to make a pitch for Claredi.  My intention was, in
responding to Rama's assertion that testing and certification are the same
thing, to explain the difference that we make between testing and
certification.

However, given that other testing vendors do not share in our understanding
of
certification, and it seems like each vendor has a different understanding
of
certification, if the response had been a "generic" response it would have
projected our understanding of certification onto the other vendors, causing
even more confusion.  Thus, I made it clear that the description of
certification I was giving was our description.  I was not trying to say we
are the only ones that get "it", but to define what is "it" that we do.
Others have a different understanding of "it" than we do.  If the point came
across as a commercial, it was certainly not my intention to do so, and I
apologize again.

Personally I would like to know what are the other vendors' description of
their certification.  If nothing else so the industry can make better
informed decisions.  It would clear some of the mystery.  The problem and
challenge will be that when you define certification your way, it is very
difficult to do so without saying "this is what WE mean by..."  Maybe
Marcallee or the workgroup co-chairs can help here?

As for Patrice's and Mike's job, as I said in my original message, it was
great.  It is, as far as I know, the very first time in WEDI's history that
there has been a side by side comparison of results from different vendors.
The fact that "I" would have done it different is to be expected, since I am
not a neutral party but one of the vendors in the panel.  I bet you or Ed
would have done it different too.  In any case, I applaud their efforts and
welcome further activities of this nature.

Finally, as for co-authoring a paper on "Business Certification", I may be
able to help, but first I would like to know what is that you call "Business
Certification".  Perhaps you could describe it in this list, and then, if
the
group leadership wants to have a white paper on that topic, they can make
that decision.

Kepa


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