After reseating, I get the exact same as before.....
pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/weewx stop
[ ok ] Stopping weewx (via systemctl): weewx.service.
pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo killall screen
screen: no process found
pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo lsof /dev/ttyUSB0
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1000/gvfs
Output information may be incomplete.
pi@WeatherPi:~ $ minicom -b 19200 -D /dev/ttyUSB0
Welcome to minicom 2.7
OPTIONS: I18n
Compiled on Apr 22 2017, 09:14:19.
Port /dev/ttyUSB0, 18:49:36
Press CTRL-A Z for help on special keys
On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 17:38:18 UTC+13 monmul wrote:
> I have not had time to do the reseating yet....hopefully later today. One
> thing strikes me (probably becuase it has been so long since I set it up) I
> just switched envoys, how does the net envoy know what to do...I have not
> gone to any itiation or set up page etc....I just plugged and supposed it
> would go. Am I missing something?
>
> On Sunday, 28 February 2021 at 19:42:44 UTC+13 monmul wrote:
>
>> Thank you, I will give that a try!
>>
>> On Sunday, 28 February 2021 at 19:31:21 UTC+13 gjr80 wrote:
>>
>>> Reseat means to remove the logger from the Envoy and then reinstall the
>>> logger in the Envoy. Sometimes you can get a dodgy connection between pins
>>> on the logger and the socket in the Envoy (or console) and remaking the
>>> connection by reseating can sometimes fix this.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 28 February 2021 at 12:53:17 UTC+10 monmul wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean by "reseat"?
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, 28 February 2021 at 14:40:11 UTC+13 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You can try reseating the logger.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 5:16 PM monmul <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Neither TEST nor NVER returns anything....so, I guess I have a
>>>>>> connectivity problem....which seems strange as I did a straight swap
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> of the Envoys!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, 28 February 2021 at 13:33:34 UTC+13 [email protected]
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the cursor went down the screen, then the console is sending
>>>>>>> something back. Make sure you press <enter> a few times, then "TEST",
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> in capital letters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can also type "NVER". Again, all in capital letters. This will
>>>>>>> return the firmware version number.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If neither of those work, then you have a connectivity problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 3:54 PM monmul <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The screen shows blank when I get to the point above.....after
>>>>>>>> hitting enter a few times, it just sends the cursor down the
>>>>>>>> screen......I
>>>>>>>> tried typing TEST but no response...just a dark screen in the CL
>>>>>>>> window.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 28 February 2021 at 11:49:11 UTC+13 gjr80 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That’s a better start, did you hit enter a few times and then send
>>>>>>>>> TEST as per the wiki article
>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Troubleshooting-the-Davis-Vantage-station#establishing-connectivity>?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You should get a response from the Envoy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 28 February 2021 at 08:04:10 UTC+10 monmul wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ minicom -b 19200 -D /dev/ttyUSB0
>>>>>>>>>> minicom: cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: Device or resource busy
>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/weewx stop
>>>>>>>>>> [ ok ] Stopping weewx (via systemctl): weewx.service.
>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo killall screen
>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo lsof /dev/ttyUSB0
>>>>>>>>>> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system
>>>>>>>>>> /run/user/1000/gvfs
>>>>>>>>>> Output information may be incomplete.
>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ minicom -b 19200 -D /dev/ttyUSB0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to minicom 2.7
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OPTIONS: I18n
>>>>>>>>>> Compiled on Apr 22 2017, 09:14:19.
>>>>>>>>>> Port /dev/ttyUSB0, 11:00:42
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Press CTRL-A Z for help on special keys
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 27 February 2021 at 02:19:42 UTC+13 [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Monmul, we have not definitively heard whether or not you are
>>>>>>>>>>> able to do the test listed under *Establishing connectivity
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Troubleshooting-the-Davis-Vantage-station#establishing-connectivity>*
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the Wiki.That is an essential first step.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Use either screen or minicom. You may have to preface the
>>>>>>>>>>> command with 'sudo'. For example,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *sudo screen /dev/ttyUSB0 19200*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -tk
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 7:34 PM monmul <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:31 WeatherPi systemd[1]: Starting LSB: weewx
>>>>>>>>>>>> weather system...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17966] INFO __main__:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Initializing weewx version 4.4.0
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17966] INFO __main__: Using
>>>>>>>>>>>> Python 2.7.13 (default, Aug 22 2020, 10:03:02) #012[GCC 6.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>>> 20170516]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17966] INFO __main__: Platform
>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux-4.19.66-v7+-armv7l-with-debian-9.13
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17966] INFO __main__: Locale is
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'en_NZ.UTF-8'
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17966] INFO __main__: PID file
>>>>>>>>>>>> is /var/run/weewx.pid
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17954]: Starting weewx weather
>>>>>>>>>>>> system: weewx.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi systemd[1]: Started LSB: weewx
>>>>>>>>>>>> weather system.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17971] INFO __main__: Using
>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration file /etc/weewx/weewx.conf
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17971] INFO __main__: Debug is 1
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG __main__:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Initializing engine
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17971] INFO weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Loading station type Vantage (weewx.drivers.vantage)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG
>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Driver version is 3.2.1
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG
>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Option loop_request=1
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG
>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Opened up serial port /dev/ttyUSB0; baud
>>>>>>>>>>>> 19200;
>>>>>>>>>>>> timeout 4.00
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:36 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: Router
>>>>>>>>>>>> Advertisement from fe80::724f:57ff:feb7:82a1
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:36 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: soliciting a
>>>>>>>>>>>> DHCPv6 lease
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:36 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG
>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Retry #0 failed
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:40 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG
>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Retry #1 failed
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:44 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG
>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Retry #2 failed
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:45 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: Router
>>>>>>>>>>>> Advertisement from fe80::724f:57ff:feb7:82a1
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:45 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: soliciting a
>>>>>>>>>>>> DHCPv6 lease
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG
>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Retry #3 failed
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] ERROR
>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Unable to wake up console
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] ERROR weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Import of driver failed: Unable to wake up Vantage console (<class
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'weewx.WakeupError'>)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> **** Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> **** File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/engine.py", line 119, in
>>>>>>>>>>>> setupStation
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> **** self.console = loader_function(config_dict, self)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> **** File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", line
>>>>>>>>>>>> 39, in
>>>>>>>>>>>> loader
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> **** return VantageService(engine, config_dict)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> **** File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", line
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1898, in
>>>>>>>>>>>> __init__
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> **** Vantage.__init__(self, **config_dict[DRIVER_NAME])
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> **** File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", line
>>>>>>>>>>>> 515, in
>>>>>>>>>>>> __init__
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> **** self._setup()
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> **** File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", line
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1317, in
>>>>>>>>>>>> _setup
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> **** self.port.wakeup_console(max_tries=self.max_tries)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> **** File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", line
>>>>>>>>>>>> 118, in
>>>>>>>>>>>> wakeup_console
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> **** raise weewx.WakeupError("Unable to wake up Vantage
>>>>>>>>>>>> console")
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL weewx.engine:
>>>>>>>>>>>> **** WakeupError: Unable to wake up Vantage console
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL __main__:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unable to load driver: Unable to wake up Vantage console
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL __main__:
>>>>>>>>>>>> **** Exiting...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:50 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: Router
>>>>>>>>>>>> Advertisement from fe80::724f:57ff:feb7:82a1
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:50 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: soliciting a
>>>>>>>>>>>> DHCPv6 lease
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:58 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: Router
>>>>>>>>>>>> Advertisement from fe80::724f:57ff:feb7:82a1
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:58 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: soliciting a
>>>>>>>>>>>> DHCPv6 lease
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:32:07 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: Router
>>>>>>>>>>>> Advertisement from fe80::724f:57ff:feb7:82a1
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:32:07 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: soliciting a
>>>>>>>>>>>> DHCPv6 lease
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:32:15 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: Router
>>>>>>>>>>>> Advertisement from fe80::724f:57ff:feb7:82a1
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:32:15 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: soliciting a
>>>>>>>>>>>> DHCPv6 lease
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 26 February 2021 at 11:19:41 UTC+13 vince wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So go ahead and restart it now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 1:02:41 PM UTC-8 monmul
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/weewx stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ok ] Stopping weewx (via systemctl): weewx.service.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo killall screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen: no process found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo lsof /dev/ttyUSB0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /run/user/1000/gvfs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Output information may be incomplete.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ ps -ef | grep -e weewxd -e screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi 3809 11222 0 10:01 pts/1 00:00:00 grep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --color=auto -e weewxd -e screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 25 February 2021 at 21:57:53 UTC+13
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vnc makes no relevant difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command = ‘screen’ below shows program ‘screen’ has a ‘pi’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user process open on /dev/ttyUSB0 at the moment. not weewxd.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably left
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over from earlier troubleshooting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kill it with “sudo killall screen”.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check if any weewxd’s or screen’s hanging around with “ps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -ef | grep -e weewxd -e screen”. kill them if you find any.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you should now be back to a clean state with /devttyUSB0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready for opening. do “sudo lsof /dev/ttyUSB0” to be sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2021, at 5:24 pm, gjr80 <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know, I'm a SSH only person, I am getting out of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depth now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 25 February 2021 at 16:21:11 UTC+10 monmul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using VNC Viewer (and always have) rather than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSH....not sure if that makes any difference?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 25 February 2021 at 19:13:29 UTC+13 gjr80
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, different to my Davis on my RPi which shows weewxd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than screen. I will have to defer to Tom or someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who knows about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 25 February 2021 at 15:58:07 UTC+10 monmul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/weewx stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ok ] Stopping weewx (via systemctl): weewx.service.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo lsof /dev/ttyUSB0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /run/user/1000/gvfs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Output information may be incomplete.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen 16582 pi 6u CHR 188,0 0t0 20196
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/ttyUSB0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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