Yes, apologies....was in a rush typing and did not review....."new 
envoy"......it should be...and "initiation" is the other typo!

On Friday, 5 March 2021 at 08:33:36 UTC+13 gjr80 wrote:

> ‘new’ envoy?
>
> Gary
>
> On Friday, 5 March 2021 at 01:39:10 UTC+10 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> What do you mean by "net Envoy"? If you are using a serial port like 
>> /dev/ttyUSB0, the logger should be plugged in via a USB connector, not a 
>> network connector. Or, are you using an IP logger?
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 8:38 PM monmul <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I have not had time to do the reseating yet....hopefully later today. 
>>> One thing strikes me (probably becuase it has been so long since I set it 
>>> up) I just switched envoys, how does the net envoy know what to do...I have 
>>> not gone to any itiation or set up page etc....I just plugged and supposed 
>>> it would go. Am I missing something?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 28 February 2021 at 19:42:44 UTC+13 monmul wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you, I will give that a try!
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, 28 February 2021 at 19:31:21 UTC+13 gjr80 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Reseat means to remove the logger from the Envoy and then reinstall 
>>>>> the logger in the Envoy. Sometimes you can get a dodgy connection between 
>>>>> pins on the logger and the socket in the Envoy (or console) and remaking 
>>>>> the connection by reseating can sometimes fix this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, 28 February 2021 at 12:53:17 UTC+10 monmul wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean by "reseat"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, 28 February 2021 at 14:40:11 UTC+13 [email protected] 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can try reseating the logger.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 5:16 PM monmul <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Neither TEST nor NVER returns anything....so, I guess I have a 
>>>>>>>> connectivity problem....which seems strange as  I did a straight swap 
>>>>>>>> out 
>>>>>>>> of the Envoys!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 28 February 2021 at 13:33:34 UTC+13 [email protected] 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If the cursor went down the screen, then the console is sending 
>>>>>>>>> something back. Make sure you press <enter> a few times, then "TEST", 
>>>>>>>>> all 
>>>>>>>>> in capital letters.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can also type "NVER". Again, all in capital letters. This will 
>>>>>>>>> return the firmware version number.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If neither of those work, then you have a connectivity problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 3:54 PM monmul <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The screen shows blank when I get to the point above.....after 
>>>>>>>>>> hitting enter a few times, it just sends the cursor down the 
>>>>>>>>>> screen......I 
>>>>>>>>>> tried typing TEST but no response...just a dark screen in the CL 
>>>>>>>>>> window.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 28 February 2021 at 11:49:11 UTC+13 gjr80 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That’s a better start, did you hit enter a few times and then 
>>>>>>>>>>> send TEST as per the wiki article 
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Troubleshooting-the-Davis-Vantage-station#establishing-connectivity>?
>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>> You should get a response from the Envoy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 28 February 2021 at 08:04:10 UTC+10 monmul wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ minicom -b 19200 -D /dev/ttyUSB0
>>>>>>>>>>>> minicom: cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: Device or resource busy
>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/weewx stop
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ok ] Stopping weewx (via systemctl): weewx.service.
>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo killall screen
>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo lsof /dev/ttyUSB0
>>>>>>>>>>>> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system 
>>>>>>>>>>>> /run/user/1000/gvfs
>>>>>>>>>>>>       Output information may be incomplete.
>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ minicom -b 19200 -D /dev/ttyUSB0
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to minicom 2.7
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OPTIONS: I18n 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Compiled on Apr 22 2017, 09:14:19.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Port /dev/ttyUSB0, 11:00:42
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Press CTRL-A Z for help on special keys
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 27 February 2021 at 02:19:42 UTC+13 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monmul, we have not definitively heard whether or not you are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to do the test listed under *Establishing connectivity 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Troubleshooting-the-Davis-Vantage-station#establishing-connectivity>*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Wiki.That is an essential first step.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Use either screen or minicom. You may have to preface the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> command with 'sudo'. For example,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *sudo screen /dev/ttyUSB0 19200*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -tk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 7:34 PM monmul <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:31 WeatherPi systemd[1]: Starting LSB: weewx 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weather system...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17966] INFO __main__: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Initializing weewx version 4.4.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17966] INFO __main__: Using 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Python 2.7.13 (default, Aug 22 2020, 10:03:02) #012[GCC 6.3.0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20170516]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17966] INFO __main__: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform Linux-4.19.66-v7+-armv7l-with-debian-9.13
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17966] INFO __main__: Locale 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 'en_NZ.UTF-8'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17966] INFO __main__: PID 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file is /var/run/weewx.pid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17954]: Starting weewx 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weather system: weewx.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi systemd[1]: Started LSB: weewx 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weather system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17971] INFO __main__: Using 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration file /etc/weewx/weewx.conf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17971] INFO __main__: Debug 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG __main__: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Initializing engine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17971] INFO weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Loading station type Vantage (weewx.drivers.vantage)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Driver version is 3.2.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Option loop_request=1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:32 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Opened up serial port /dev/ttyUSB0; baud 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 19200; 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> timeout 4.00
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:36 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: Router 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Advertisement from fe80::724f:57ff:feb7:82a1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:36 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: soliciting a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DHCPv6 lease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:36 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Retry #0 failed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:40 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Retry #1 failed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:44 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Retry #2 failed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:45 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: Router 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Advertisement from fe80::724f:57ff:feb7:82a1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:45 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: soliciting a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DHCPv6 lease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] DEBUG 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Retry #3 failed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] ERROR 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.drivers.vantage: Unable to wake up console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] ERROR weewx.engine: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Import of driver failed: Unable to wake up Vantage console 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (<class 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'weewx.WakeupError'>)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****  Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****    File 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/engine.py", line 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 119, in setupStation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****      self.console = 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loader_function(config_dict, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****    File 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 39, in loader
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****      return VantageService(engine, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config_dict)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****    File 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 1898, in __init__
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****      Vantage.__init__(self, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **config_dict[DRIVER_NAME])
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****    File 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 515, in __init__
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****      self._setup()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****    File 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 1317, in _setup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****      
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self.port.wakeup_console(max_tries=self.max_tries)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****    File 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers/vantage.py", 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 118, in wakeup_console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****      raise weewx.WakeupError("Unable to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wake up 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vantage console")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weewx.engine:     ****  WakeupError: Unable to wake up Vantage 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL __main__: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unable to load driver: Unable to wake up Vantage console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:48 WeatherPi weewx[17971] CRITICAL __main__:    
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  ****  Exiting...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:50 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: Router 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Advertisement from fe80::724f:57ff:feb7:82a1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:50 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: soliciting a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DHCPv6 lease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:58 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: Router 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Advertisement from fe80::724f:57ff:feb7:82a1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:31:58 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: soliciting a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DHCPv6 lease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:32:07 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: Router 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Advertisement from fe80::724f:57ff:feb7:82a1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:32:07 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: soliciting a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DHCPv6 lease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:32:15 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: Router 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Advertisement from fe80::724f:57ff:feb7:82a1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 26 16:32:15 WeatherPi dhcpcd[372]: wlan0: soliciting a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DHCPv6 lease
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 26 February 2021 at 11:19:41 UTC+13 vince wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So go ahead and restart it now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 1:02:41 PM UTC-8 monmul 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/weewx stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ok ] Stopping weewx (via systemctl): weewx.service.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo killall screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen: no process found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo lsof /dev/ttyUSB0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /run/user/1000/gvfs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       Output information may be incomplete.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ ps -ef | grep -e weewxd -e screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi        3809 11222  0 10:01 pts/1    00:00:00 grep 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --color=auto -e weewxd -e screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 25 February 2021 at 21:57:53 UTC+13 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vnc makes no relevant difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command = ‘screen’ below shows program ‘screen’ has a ‘pi’ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user process open on /dev/ttyUSB0 at the moment. not weewxd. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably left 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over from earlier troubleshooting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kill it with “sudo killall screen”.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check if any weewxd’s or screen’s hanging around with “ps 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -ef | grep -e weewxd -e screen”. kill them if you find any.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you should now be back to a clean state with /devttyUSB0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready for opening. do “sudo lsof /dev/ttyUSB0” to be sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2021, at 5:24 pm, gjr80 <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know, I'm a SSH only person, I am getting out of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my depth now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 25 February 2021 at 16:21:11 UTC+10 monmul 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using VNC Viewer (and always have) rather than 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSH....not sure if that makes any difference?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 25 February 2021 at 19:13:29 UTC+13 gjr80 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, different to my Davis on my RPi which shows weewxd 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than screen. I will have to defer to Tom or someone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who knows about 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 25 February 2021 at 15:58:07 UTC+10 monmul 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/weewx stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ok ] Stopping weewx (via systemctl): weewx.service.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ sudo lsof /dev/ttyUSB0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /run/user/1000/gvfs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       Output information may be incomplete.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> COMMAND   PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF  NODE 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NAME
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen  16582   pi    6u   CHR  188,0      0t0 20196 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/ttyUSB0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pi@WeatherPi:~ $ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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