On Monday 03 February 2014 18:01:01 Nils Kneuper wrote: > You are of course right that it *would* be nice to have the information > documented in the forums and the discussions happen there. The only problem > I see with that is that many developers do not frequent the forums which, > as far as I understand is because of at least one of the following reasons: > > 1) Forums are not what they like to use in general (for them IRC or even > emails work better).
I absolutely abhor using emails to communicate with people, and I prefer to use IRC unless I need to ensure my message persists over time -- in that case I'd rather use a bug tracker, forum board, or mailing list (in that order) than IRC. > 2) The forums appear to be too noisy. Meaning: Lots of (felt as useless) > comments in own threads and by far too much information being posted all > over the forums. Developers somehow feel obliged to read (or at least look > at) "all threads" if they are around since otherwise they might get asked > all the time "you were in the boards but did not reply to my thread!" which > is also problematic. As a UMC content author maintaining two large add-ons since 2007 and 2008, I don't feel obliged to read every single thread in the forums that may have even the slightest tangential relation to my add-ons (regardless of whether they are in the same section or not), and I have made this clear in the past. I don't see why anyone else (developer, artist, translator, whatever) couldn't just do the same, or make this a general forum rule -- although, frankly, it strikes me as more of a common sense thing (public forums != your personal mailbox). And in general, whoever goes and literally demands his thread to be read is violating our guideline about not demanding from volunteers. > 3) Some developer (more than one) voiced the opinion that the atmosphere in > the forums is bad making them just not go there. I don't know the exact > reasons for this and what could be done to improve things. *If* this is related to a certain thread from last year that's currently restricted by policy, I believe I speak for both of the current lead forum admins when I say I am open to reopening the discussion and evaluating options accordingly (in the forums, though, not here). And even if it isn't, I still welcome discussion of the matter in there. If no-one states their problems, there is absolutely no way we can know what they are and figure out a way to solve them. This is pretty much the same thing we tell our users in release announcements with regard to game bugs. > Still I think that the dev mailing list is the best place to gather some > results and allow people to catch up. The benefit is that the traffic is low > and only the "important stuff" is likely to appear. Yes, every developer > should be subscribed to the list. We should make sure this continues to be the case for every new project member added by the people who have admin access at GitHub. I admit I have forgotten to require this from those few I have handled myself. -- Regards Ignacio R. Morelle <shadowm> _______________________________________________ Wesnoth-dev mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/wesnoth-dev
