Traceroute and ping both work from WUG Tools/Net Tools and if you right click and do a traceroute and ping.

Ping/Echo does not work when I set WUG to monitor any device via Ping/Echo.

Brian



At 06:28 AM 12/10/2003, you wrote:
just a small sidestep question. what happens when you do a traceroute from
WUG to the router ??

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WhatsUp Forum] Ping help


Ok I downloaded and installed Whatsup Gold 8.03


Set up a new Map and a New device, I'm still unable to ping my router.

In 8.03 I went to the Net Tools and was able to ping the router (and any
other device). I tried a packet size from 100 to 3000 without any problems.

Brian





At 03:57 PM 12/9/2003, you wrote:
>OK, you ran into a separate defect here.  One that affects every version
>of WhatsUp Gold from v4.05 (at least) up to v8.03, where it was fixed.
>
>Small packet sizes cause the following problems:
>
>1) Size 1-13.  No ping occurs.  Client reports (in List View):
>
>      failed, retcode = 122 (It doesn't appear this application was
> installed properly with Install!)
>
>2) Size 14-27 WUG performs a valid ping and receives a valid response
>(tested using packet analyzer), but displays the following:
>
>        failed, retcode = 11001 (Host name not resolved)
>
>This response occurs for pinging both an IP address or a Fully Qualified
>Domain Name.
>
>This did not seem to be a serious problem because no user reported it and
>there were no obvious use cases for needing small packets.
>
>Anyway, as I mentioned above, this was fixed in v8.03 as a consequence of
>implementing the ability to control the packet size via the registry.
>
>Concerning Nettools, you say "anything over 30 works".  Does this hold
>true for larger sizes, as you go over 50?  If there is a cut-off point
>then you maybe have a filter in place after all.  The solution for that
>might be to upgrade to v8.03 so that you can get the device monitoring
>ICMP packets to the right size.  You can download an Eval of v8.03 to test
>out this hypothesis.
>
>Of course, the best reason to upgrade would be to take advantage of all
>the v8.0x goodies like the Event system.
>
>Don't worry about log management...  that's to control how logs get placed
>into the archive directory.
>
>As for the debug log,  it's aways available via Logs -> Debug Log.  It
>does not have to be configured.  However,  what it shows you is live
>info..  you cant open the window and scroll back.  You can only open the
>window and watch things "time forward".
>
>Mark Symons
>Ipswitch, Inc
>Augusta GA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Simpson
>Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 13:30
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [WhatsUp Forum] Ping help
>
>
>I'm monitoring devices on our network. There are no filters.
>
>When I go to NetTools and ping everything works. Changing the packet size
>to 25 and lower fails, anything over 30 works.
>
>There's nothing in the Debug log. How do you turn this on? Under Program
>Options, Logging I have Log Type: Whatsup Event Log and no log management.
>Is this the correct settings?
>
>I need to be able to monitor with ping, because I want to monitor our up
>stream providers router.
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>          Brian
>
>PS I've been using Whatsup (and then Whatsup Gold) since the program was
>first released (maybe 10 years), it's a great program.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>At 07:08 AM 12/9/2003, you wrote:
> >There is no difference between the ICMP packets generated from WhatsUp
> >Gold v7.04 with a right-click ping and a normal monitor ping.
> >
> >Now, many networks have implemented ICMP filtering this year based on
> >packet size.  This is intended to block the nachi/welchia worm.  The
> >filter would catch the ICMP packets used by WhatsUp Gold to monitor
devices.
> >
> >Are you being affected by such a filter?  Try using Nettools and play
with
> >the packet size.  See whether small packets get through and large ones
> don't.
> >
> >If this is the case then you would want to upgrade to v8.03.  This has a
> >smaller default ICMP size and a registry setting that allows that size to
> >be configured.
> >
> >Mark Symons
> >Ipswitch Inc
> >Augusta GA
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Simpson
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 03:39
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [WhatsUp Forum] Ping help
> >
> >
> >I have Whatsup Gold 7.04 running on WinXP I have several devices I
monitor
> >SMTP, POP, HTTP, ColdFusion with no problems. I can't ping any device. If
I
> >right click the device and click ping it pings the device no problem. If
I
> >set a monitor to ping or echo service it does not work. What am I doing
> wring?
> >
> >         Thanks
> >
> >         Brian
> >
> >
> >
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