So you are saying that it is possible to support many browser to get border-box?

hmm that would solve so many problems we have...

So you let IE stay in quircks mode and have for firefox that  -moz-box-sizing: border-box;
and for other browsers (maybe IE7) the CSS3? standard: box-sizing: border-box;

What is your doctype?

johan


On 5/18/06, Matej Knopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Igor Vaynberg wrote:
> allow myself to quote...myself
>
> || imho, html is the best layout manager out there for browser apps. add
> css to the mix and you have a great skin manager as well.
>
> i never said css was great for layout manager :) and yes the box model
> is broken.
The box model really is broken. Therefore I always stick with IE box model

                        * {
                                box-sizing: border-box;
                                -moz-box-sizing: border-box;
                        }

The only thing to take care of is not to allow IE6 to work in
standard-compliance mode. So far, I had no problems with this setup. I'm
doing quite complicated layouts using just css (no tables) and
everything works fine. I just hope that IE7 won't screw everything up.

-Matej

>
> -Igor
>
>
> On 5/17/06, *Johan Compagner* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>     ha! and css is easier then layout manager in java...
>     hmm that is not how i see it.
>     CSS is just plain horrible stupid box thing..
>
>     And what is a layout manager in css? There isn't one everything is
>     sort of absoluut positioned and then you can do in swing also
>     (not recommended ofcourse)
>
>     johan
>
>
>     On 5/17/06, *Igor Vaynberg* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> wrote:
>
>         imho, html is the best layout manager out there for browser
>         apps. add css to the mix and you have a great skin manager as well.
>
>         the one thing you always hear swing developers bitching about is
>         how they have to fight the layout managers to get the results
>         they want. gridbaglayout is poweful but its a huge pain to work
>         with.
>
>         matisse+grouplayout are the holy grail for swing devels, its
>         nice and easy to create layouts. but it still requires a gui to
>         do this, while i can do html easily by hand. also browser screen
>         space doesnt translate easily to the desktop space. in desktop
>         space you are pixel aware, you are also pixel aware of your
>         fonts and the south east corner of the window. in html you have
>         none of these things.
>
>         look at wingS framework examples, they use layout managers. look
>         how rectangular their examples look.
>
>         -Igor
>
>
>
>
>         On 5/17/06, *Frank Silbermann * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>             I, personally, don't care for HTML, and perhaps I might enjoy
>             programming in Echo2 better.
>
>             But suppose an employer maintained an HTML fragment with
>             links to their
>             entire portfolio of web applications, and wanted this
>             fragment to appear
>             on every page of each web application.  Since someone else is
>             maintaining that scrap and keeping it up-to-date, I would
>             not want to
>             translate it into Echo 2 and maintain my own copy.
>
>             Would it not likely be easier to incorporate such an HTML
>             scrap into a
>             Wicket application, versus one written in a framework such
>             as Echo 2
>             that abstracted away the HTML completely?
>
>
>             -----Original Message-----
>             From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>             <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>             [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>             <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] On Behalf
>             Of Eelco
>             Hillenius
>             Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:58 AM
>             To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>             <mailto: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
>             Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] Google Web Toolkit integration ?
>
>             >  It's certainly an intriguing idea (have a look at haxe.org
>             <http://haxe.org> if you find
>             >  it interesting), ...
>             ...
>             Yeah. I see some advantages of using layout managers -
>             basically the
>             same promise as Swing has - but currently I would still
>             prefer using
>             HTML for layout. If I would like the GWT way of developing
>             applications, I would have choosen Echo 2 a long time ago.
>             GWT looks
>             like a next gen Echo to me, though with a very big name
>             behind it, and
>             some cool innovations. ... Eelco
>
>
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