I will also by the book as soon as it is available... unless I give up before :-(
Pierre-Yves James Cook a écrit : > I wouldn't be too quick to judge developers that struggle with your > platform to be new to _good_ java programming. I have many years of > Swing development experience and web experience dating back to the > pre-servlet, pre-framework era. That said, Wicket does interest me > because it is radically different that the page-based frameworks *and* > JSF-based component frameworks available today. > > From my own experience, I would say the hardest part about _using_ > Wicket is _learning_ Wicket. There is a hodgepodge of documentation > scattered in a lot of different places. You are transitioning to a new > version, and without a good collection of documents/best practices it > seems a bit hopeless at times. > > Your Wicket in Action book is many months off. Hopefully it is geared > for Wicket 2.0. Also, perhaps you can get Manning to release it in their > early access program. I know I would buy it today if a few initial > chapters were available online. > > -- jim > > On 8/6/06, *Eelco Hillenius* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > I'd like to add to that that Wicket requires you to know your Java, > while e.g. using JSP allows to build whole web sites with hardly any > Java knowledge. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable. > > Eelco > > > On 8/6/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > What were/ are the problems you are experiencing Pierre-Yves? > > > > Usually the largest obstacle for people with Wicket (and Tapestry, > > Echo and GWT for that matter) is getting rid of the bad practices > they > > got used to when working with frameworks like Struts etc. A lot of > > people learned programming Java web apps on frameworks like that, > and > > never got much of the OO part. Otoh, if you're coming from e.g. Swing > > programming, Wicket should be easier for you. > > > > Wicket vs Stripes... it's oranges and pears - except for the fact > that > > you both make web apps with them. Stripes is geared towards > > simplifying the common model 2 paradigm, and it does a very good job > > at that as far as I've seen, While Wicket is all about stateful, self > > contained, reusable components. > > > > Personally, I don't think Stripes is always easier than Wicket, > > especially when you look at e.g. > > > > http://mc4j.org/confluence/display/stripes/Binding+directly+to+your+domain+model > > ; Wicket's equivalent would be quite a lot easier imo, but for some > > things Stripes probably is easier, like when you are prototyping/ > > moving your HTML structure around a lot. > > > > In the end, just choose which framework that gives you a warm and > > fuzzy feeling :) Stripes seems to be the best choice if you want > to go > > for a model 2 framework. > > > > Read some more here: > > http://www.virtuas.com/articles/webframework-sweetspots.html > > > > Eelco > > > > > > > > On 8/6/06, Pierre-Yves Saumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > I would be very interested to know how you compare Wicket and > Stripes > > > and why you're leaning toward Wicket. (I didn't know about > Stripes, but > > > at first glance, it seems much simpler than Wicket, which I > have been > > > struggling with for two weeks now without much success!). > > > > > > Pierre-Yves > > > > > > Bill Bruyn a écrit : > > > > I have an opportunity to use a new framework on a current > project, and > > > > I've been trying to decide between Wicket and Stripes. Both > look really > > > > nice, but at the moment I'm leaning toward Wicket. Got a > skeleton > > > > project set up with 1.2.1 (via Wicket Bench 0.3.0) and am > running it > > > > with a JettyLauncher from Eclipse. So far, so good, but my > wicket page > > > > markup (e.g., SomePage.html ) doesn't find my css. > > > > > > > > I've tried it at the root of my webapp and in the same > directory as the > > > > markup (looks like from the examples I should just be able to > drop it on > > > > the root). I've tried adding a resource to the class via > > > > super.getResourceSettings().addResourceFolder (though I > shouldn't need > > > > that, right?) and nothing seems to work. I'm sure this is > trivial, and > > > > it's a bit of a disappointment that I've already had to ask > for help, > > > > but I've done some googling, and some browsing of the Wiki > and the FAQ > > > > to no avail. > > > > > > > > BTW, I should also mention that when I request non-existent > resources > > > > from the app (e.g., foo.html) I am always redirected to the app's > > > > homepage instead of getting a 404. Is that the desired > behavior? Is it > > > > configurable? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks very much in advance, > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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