Don't ask me, this is the format the Wiki has been using. I'd say, don't
mess with a format a community choose, has worked out well in the large
amount of time it's been used, and is used on over 1000 pages.
~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of The Gaiapedia, Wikia Graphical Entertainment
Project, and Wiki-Tools.com
Bill W. Smith, Jr. wrote:
wouldn't it have been simpler to put the related pages on subpages of
the CARD NAME page? OR... put all of it on ONE page (the CARD NAME)
page but put the extra info in pre-collapsed collapsible boxes?
On 9/23/07, *DanTMan* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
*Short Summary:* Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki needs Namespaces, but it can't be
done the normal way through the staff Special page because of the
wiki's size and the quantity of pages.
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I've been starting to out the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki lately. While they
are quite well off in editors and admins, they are largely
undeveloped with any of the normal /complex/ templates and other
tricks.
Which brings me to a bit of an issue I'm trying to solve:
On the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki they basically have 7 specific pages for a card:
* /Card name/ - The card page with the information on the card.
* Card Gallery:/Card name/ - A gallery of the different images
of the card (Cards can be from multiple packs, starter sets,
promos, be 1st Edition, or holofoil, have English/Japanese
versions, and even have other versions with different lore
(the card text or effect))
* Card Rulings:/Card name/ - Lists various Rulings used in
various game tournaments and other official rulings about
the card.
* Card Errata:/Card name/ - A list/table/explanation of the
various changes to things on the card such as it's lore,
which were changed with different releases of the card.
* Card Tips:/Card name/ - Tips on how the card can be
effectively used, or combined with other cards.
* Anime and Manga Appearances:/Card name/ - Times where the
card was used in one of the Anime or Manga.
* Card Trivia:/Card name/ - Various other small bits of
information on the card which don't fit elsewhere.
But now the issue is on the templates.
Unfortunately, instead of putting the Gallery, Rulings, Errata,
Tips, etc... index into one template. They each have their own,
but that's not the big problem.
The issue lies in this:
While on the /Card name/ page you can nicely link to the gallery
within one of the Card Table templates using "Card
Gallery:{{PAGENAME}}", that doesn't work that well on the "Card
Gallery:/Card name/" page. So instead, while the Card's page links
using {{PAGENAME}}, the others link with a template parameter. And
that starts to not work out to well. If you move a Card page to a
new title, all the links fix themselves and point to the correct
page, because the thing in common with all the pages is always the
/Card name/ bit in the name, if that's different they're not part
of each other. But, when you move a page like a "Card Errata:/Card
name/" page, the links don't change, and now it's linking back to
incorrect pages, which don't link back properly.
So the real problem is, that the things like "Card Gallery:"
should actually be namespaces. But there's an issue with asking
the staff to do this.
Go to
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Prefixindex/Card_Trivia: this
is just one of them. There are 6 namespaces which would need to be
created. In simple terms, as you see on that page list there, a
Special:Prefixindex list, filled up, with only one of those sets,
only gets half the list. So, count that number there, multiply it
by 2, then multiply that by 6... And that's a few thousand pages
which would need to be moved, then a request would need to be made
to the staff, then things would need to be moved back. Sure it's
possible to move things by bot, but what about the users. The
Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki is a highly active wiki, we start moving, and
editors start getting confused and recreating stuff. Either that
or we come up with some way to basically shut down the wiki for a
few days. But then, one of Wikia's large wiki is dead for a few
days...
So this is something that would need to be done by the Techs.
Through the normal PHP edit, and a set of SQL queries.
Basically the 6 new namespaces would need to be added, then a set
of 6 SQL queries like this, would need to be run:
|UPDATE pages SET page_namespace = 104, page_name =
SUBSTRING(page_namespace, 12) WHERE page_namespace = 0 AND
'Card_Trivia:' = LEFT(page_name, 12)|
Which of course, basically would go over all the pages in the Main
namespace starting with 'Card_Trivia:', change the namespace to
the new one (104 in the example), and then strip out the
'Card_Trivia:' from the start of the title so we don't have it now
at |Card_Trivia:||Card_Trivia:/Card name/|.
Is this something that could still be requested of the techs?
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