Yes, those are the prefixes that need converting to namespaces.
(Emphasizing conversion of prefixes to namespaces rather than just a
namespace addition, cause a page like [[Card Gallery:Dark Magician
]]should still be located at [[Card Gallery:Dark Magician]] after the
conversion, the only difference being that {{NAMESPACE}} returns Card
Gallery, and {{PAGENAME}} returns Dark Magician rather than both
{{PAGENAME}} and {{FULLPAGENAME}} returning Card Gallery:Dark Magician.)
There aren't any other prefixes to worry about. If the wiki needs a new
Namespace later on for some reason we can do it the normal special page
way. Though, it would be nice if the numericals (
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Allpages/45023678 ), and the set
names ( http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Allpages/DB1-EN007 |
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Allpages/DB1-EN007 |
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Allpages/SDP-044 ) could be put
into some magical type of special namespace. But, thats a whole
different technical issue. ^_^ Regex Namespaces, now that would be an
awesome update to MediaWiki.
~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of:
-The Gaiapedia (http://gaia.wikia.com)
-Wikia ACG on Wikia.com (http://wikia.com/wiki/Wikia_ACG)
-and Wiki-Tools.com (http://wiki-tools.com)
sannse wrote:
> OK, so we'll get this on to the technical to-do list.
>
> Dantman, can you just confirm that the change needed is to add 6 new
> namespaces:
>
> Card Gallery:
> Card Rulings:
> Card Errata:
> Card Tips:
> Anime and Manga Appearances:
> Card Trivia:
>
> Thanks,
>
> -- sannse
>
> ----
> Lisa "sannse" Carter
> Wikia Community and Technical Support Team
> http://www.wikia.com/
>
> On Oct 25, 2007 6:42 PM, DanTMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Ok, it took a while to get the Community to actually put in their
>> feedback instead of just staring at other parts of the site.
>> http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh%21:Community_Portal#Prefixes_to_Namespaces
>> There are 3 confirmations from active users of the site. You can see
>> from the IRC Log above that one of the most active Sysops, Deltaneos
>> gives his support of the change. And there isn't anything listed on that
>> page, but the wiki's founder TwoTailedFox also said in IRC that he likes
>> the idea. Feel free to ask him for confirmation if you want it...
>>
>> So that would be something nice to have done. At whatever time you do,
>> since it's an active wiki would it be to much to ask for Wikia's staff
>> to put a notice inside of the Sitenotice and Anonnotice a day before
>> that the next day during a scheduled time the database will be locked
>> and some pages may be temporarily unavailable during the change?
>>
>> ~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of:
>> -The Gaiapedia (http://gaia.wikia.com)
>> -Wikia ACG on Wikia.com (http://wikia.com/wiki/Wikia_ACG)
>> -and Wiki-Tools.com (http://wiki-tools.com)
>>
>> Bill Kaufmann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi DanTMan -
>>>
>>> Great ideas and thoughts. But I want to make sure that someone from
>>> Yu-Gi-Oh! requested the changes you mention below. Is the entire
>>> community aware of what you intend to do? If not, then I am reluctant
>>> to suggest we change anything (either behind the scenes or in full
>>> view) until they are a part of the discussion. I would much prefer
>>> that you show the Yu-Gi-Oh! community the possibilities on a talk page
>>> and have them embrace the help rather than force something on them
>>> which they don't feel is needed. If the majority of the community
>>> doesn't acknowledge the improvements you are offering, then I think
>>> it's wise to give them space until they do.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/23/07, *DanTMan* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> *Short Summary:* Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki needs Namespaces, but it can't be
>>> done the normal way through the staff Special page because of the
>>> wiki's size and the quantity of pages.
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> I've been starting to out the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki lately. While they
>>> are quite well off in editors and admins, they are largely
>>> undeveloped with any of the normal /complex/ templates and other
>>> tricks.
>>> Which brings me to a bit of an issue I'm trying to solve:
>>> On the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki they basically have 7 specific pages for a card:
>>>
>>> * /Card name/ - The card page with the information on the card.
>>> * Card Gallery:/Card name/ - A gallery of the different images
>>> of the card (Cards can be from multiple packs, starter sets,
>>> promos, be 1st Edition, or holofoil, have English/Japanese
>>> versions, and even have other versions with different lore
>>> (the card text or effect))
>>> * Card Rulings:/Card name/ - Lists various Rulings used in
>>> various game tournaments and other official rulings about
>>> the card.
>>> * Card Errata:/Card name/ - A list/table/explanation of the
>>> various changes to things on the card such as it's lore,
>>> which were changed with different releases of the card.
>>> * Card Tips:/Card name/ - Tips on how the card can be
>>> effectively used, or combined with other cards.
>>> * Anime and Manga Appearances:/Card name/ - Times where the
>>> card was used in one of the Anime or Manga.
>>> * Card Trivia:/Card name/ - Various other small bits of
>>> information on the card which don't fit elsewhere.
>>>
>>> But now the issue is on the templates.
>>> Unfortunately, instead of putting the Gallery, Rulings, Errata,
>>> Tips, etc... index into one template. They each have their own,
>>> but that's not the big problem.
>>> The issue lies in this:
>>> While on the /Card name/ page you can nicely link to the gallery
>>> within one of the Card Table templates using "Card
>>> Gallery:{{PAGENAME}}", that doesn't work that well on the "Card
>>> Gallery:/Card name/" page. So instead, while the Card's page links
>>> using {{PAGENAME}}, the others link with a template parameter. And
>>> that starts to not work out to well. If you move a Card page to a
>>> new title, all the links fix themselves and point to the correct
>>> page, because the thing in common with all the pages is always the
>>> /Card name/ bit in the name, if that's different they're not part
>>> of each other. But, when you move a page like a "Card Errata:/Card
>>> name/" page, the links don't change, and now it's linking back to
>>> incorrect pages, which don't link back properly.
>>>
>>> So the real problem is, that the things like "Card Gallery:"
>>> should actually be namespaces. But there's an issue with asking
>>> the staff to do this.
>>> Go to
>>> http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Prefixindex/Card_Trivia: this
>>> is just one of them. There are 6 namespaces which would need to be
>>> created. In simple terms, as you see on that page list there, a
>>> Special:Prefixindex list, filled up, with only one of those sets,
>>> only gets half the list. So, count that number there, multiply it
>>> by 2, then multiply that by 6... And that's a few thousand pages
>>> which would need to be moved, then a request would need to be made
>>> to the staff, then things would need to be moved back. Sure it's
>>> possible to move things by bot, but what about the users. The
>>> Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki is a highly active wiki, we start moving, and
>>> editors start getting confused and recreating stuff. Either that
>>> or we come up with some way to basically shut down the wiki for a
>>> few days. But then, one of Wikia's large wiki is dead for a few
>>> days...
>>>
>>> So this is something that would need to be done by the Techs.
>>> Through the normal PHP edit, and a set of SQL queries.
>>> Basically the 6 new namespaces would need to be added, then a set
>>> of 6 SQL queries like this, would need to be run:
>>> |UPDATE pages SET page_namespace = 104, page_name =
>>> SUBSTRING(page_namespace, 12) WHERE page_namespace = 0 AND
>>> 'Card_Trivia:' = LEFT(page_name, 12)|
>>> Which of course, basically would go over all the pages in the Main
>>> namespace starting with 'Card_Trivia:', change the namespace to
>>> the new one (104 in the example), and then strip out the
>>> 'Card_Trivia:' from the start of the title so we don't have it now
>>> at |Card_Trivia:||Card_Trivia:/Card name/|.
>>>
>>> Is this something that could still be requested of the techs?
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of The Gaiapedia, Wikia Graphical
>>> Entertainment Project, and Wiki-Tools.com
>>>
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