OK, so we'll get this on to the technical to-do list. Dantman, can you just confirm that the change needed is to add 6 new namespaces:
Card Gallery: Card Rulings: Card Errata: Card Tips: Anime and Manga Appearances: Card Trivia: Thanks, -- sannse ---- Lisa "sannse" Carter Wikia Community and Technical Support Team http://www.wikia.com/ On Oct 25, 2007 6:42 PM, DanTMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, it took a while to get the Community to actually put in their > feedback instead of just staring at other parts of the site. > http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh%21:Community_Portal#Prefixes_to_Namespaces > There are 3 confirmations from active users of the site. You can see > from the IRC Log above that one of the most active Sysops, Deltaneos > gives his support of the change. And there isn't anything listed on that > page, but the wiki's founder TwoTailedFox also said in IRC that he likes > the idea. Feel free to ask him for confirmation if you want it... > > So that would be something nice to have done. At whatever time you do, > since it's an active wiki would it be to much to ask for Wikia's staff > to put a notice inside of the Sitenotice and Anonnotice a day before > that the next day during a scheduled time the database will be locked > and some pages may be temporarily unavailable during the change? > > ~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of: > -The Gaiapedia (http://gaia.wikia.com) > -Wikia ACG on Wikia.com (http://wikia.com/wiki/Wikia_ACG) > -and Wiki-Tools.com (http://wiki-tools.com) > > Bill Kaufmann wrote: > > Hi DanTMan - > > > > Great ideas and thoughts. But I want to make sure that someone from > > Yu-Gi-Oh! requested the changes you mention below. Is the entire > > community aware of what you intend to do? If not, then I am reluctant > > to suggest we change anything (either behind the scenes or in full > > view) until they are a part of the discussion. I would much prefer > > that you show the Yu-Gi-Oh! community the possibilities on a talk page > > and have them embrace the help rather than force something on them > > which they don't feel is needed. If the majority of the community > > doesn't acknowledge the improvements you are offering, then I think > > it's wise to give them space until they do. > > > > Thanks, > > Bill > > > > > > On 9/23/07, *DanTMan* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > *Short Summary:* Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki needs Namespaces, but it can't be > > done the normal way through the staff Special page because of the > > wiki's size and the quantity of pages. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > I've been starting to out the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki lately. While they > > are quite well off in editors and admins, they are largely > > undeveloped with any of the normal /complex/ templates and other > > tricks. > > Which brings me to a bit of an issue I'm trying to solve: > > On the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki they basically have 7 specific pages for a card: > > > > * /Card name/ - The card page with the information on the card. > > * Card Gallery:/Card name/ - A gallery of the different images > > of the card (Cards can be from multiple packs, starter sets, > > promos, be 1st Edition, or holofoil, have English/Japanese > > versions, and even have other versions with different lore > > (the card text or effect)) > > * Card Rulings:/Card name/ - Lists various Rulings used in > > various game tournaments and other official rulings about > > the card. > > * Card Errata:/Card name/ - A list/table/explanation of the > > various changes to things on the card such as it's lore, > > which were changed with different releases of the card. > > * Card Tips:/Card name/ - Tips on how the card can be > > effectively used, or combined with other cards. > > * Anime and Manga Appearances:/Card name/ - Times where the > > card was used in one of the Anime or Manga. > > * Card Trivia:/Card name/ - Various other small bits of > > information on the card which don't fit elsewhere. > > > > But now the issue is on the templates. > > Unfortunately, instead of putting the Gallery, Rulings, Errata, > > Tips, etc... index into one template. They each have their own, > > but that's not the big problem. > > The issue lies in this: > > While on the /Card name/ page you can nicely link to the gallery > > within one of the Card Table templates using "Card > > Gallery:{{PAGENAME}}", that doesn't work that well on the "Card > > Gallery:/Card name/" page. So instead, while the Card's page links > > using {{PAGENAME}}, the others link with a template parameter. And > > that starts to not work out to well. If you move a Card page to a > > new title, all the links fix themselves and point to the correct > > page, because the thing in common with all the pages is always the > > /Card name/ bit in the name, if that's different they're not part > > of each other. But, when you move a page like a "Card Errata:/Card > > name/" page, the links don't change, and now it's linking back to > > incorrect pages, which don't link back properly. > > > > So the real problem is, that the things like "Card Gallery:" > > should actually be namespaces. But there's an issue with asking > > the staff to do this. > > Go to > > http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Prefixindex/Card_Trivia: this > > is just one of them. There are 6 namespaces which would need to be > > created. In simple terms, as you see on that page list there, a > > Special:Prefixindex list, filled up, with only one of those sets, > > only gets half the list. So, count that number there, multiply it > > by 2, then multiply that by 6... And that's a few thousand pages > > which would need to be moved, then a request would need to be made > > to the staff, then things would need to be moved back. Sure it's > > possible to move things by bot, but what about the users. The > > Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki is a highly active wiki, we start moving, and > > editors start getting confused and recreating stuff. Either that > > or we come up with some way to basically shut down the wiki for a > > few days. But then, one of Wikia's large wiki is dead for a few > > days... > > > > So this is something that would need to be done by the Techs. > > Through the normal PHP edit, and a set of SQL queries. > > Basically the 6 new namespaces would need to be added, then a set > > of 6 SQL queries like this, would need to be run: > > |UPDATE pages SET page_namespace = 104, page_name = > > SUBSTRING(page_namespace, 12) WHERE page_namespace = 0 AND > > 'Card_Trivia:' = LEFT(page_name, 12)| > > Which of course, basically would go over all the pages in the Main > > namespace starting with 'Card_Trivia:', change the namespace to > > the new one (104 in the example), and then strip out the > > 'Card_Trivia:' from the start of the title so we don't have it now > > at |Card_Trivia:||Card_Trivia:/Card name/|. > > > > Is this something that could still be requested of the techs? > > > > -- > > ~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of The Gaiapedia, Wikia Graphical > > Entertainment Project, and Wiki-Tools.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikia-l mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/wikia-l > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikia-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/wikia-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikia-l mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/wikia-l > _______________________________________________ Wikia-l mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/wikia-l
