On the Marvel Database Project, we use sub-pages for organizing a great deal of our content. We have a very complex template for characters, such as Spider-Man, all of them which have sub-pages such as:
Spider-Man/Appearances Spider-Man/Gallery Spider-Man/Quotes Spider-Man/Foo We have over 8,000 articles using this format and it works well for us. The key is to ensure navigation between the main page and the sub-pages is intuitive and very 'feng shui'. Check out one way we have integrated this into our navigation on our disambig pages: http://en.marveldatabase.com/Spider-Man *"A* = Appearances · *CA* = Chronological Appearances · *G* = Gallery · *Q*= Quotes" It seems to work well for us. Let me know if this, or similar, might work for YOU-gi-oh. ;) -- Jamie Hari Editor-in-Chief Marvel & DC Database Projects On 9/23/07, DanTMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't ask me, this is the format the Wiki has been using. I'd say, don't > mess with a format a community choose, has worked out well in the large > amount of time it's been used, and is used on over 1000 pages. > > ~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of The Gaiapedia, Wikia Graphical Entertainment > Project, and Wiki-Tools.com > > Bill W. Smith, Jr. wrote: > > wouldn't it have been simpler to put the related pages on subpages of the > CARD NAME page? OR... put all of it on ONE page (the CARD NAME) page but put > the extra info in pre-collapsed collapsible boxes? > > On 9/23/07, DanTMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > *Short Summary:* Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki needs Namespaces, but it can't be done > > the normal way through the staff Special page because of the wiki's size and > > the quantity of pages. > > ------------------------------ > > I've been starting to out the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki lately. While they are > > quite well off in editors and admins, they are largely undeveloped with any > > of the normal *complex* templates and other tricks. > > Which brings me to a bit of an issue I'm trying to solve: > > On the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki they basically have 7 specific pages for a card: > > > > - *Card name* - The card page with the information on the card. > > - Card Gallery:*Card name* - A gallery of the different images of > > the card (Cards can be from multiple packs, starter sets, promos, be 1st > > Edition, or holofoil, have English/Japanese versions, and even have other > > versions with different lore (the card text or effect)) > > - Card Rulings:*Card name* - Lists various Rulings used in various > > game tournaments and other official rulings about the card. > > - Card Errata:*Card name* - A list/table/explanation of the > > various changes to things on the card such as it's lore, which were > > changed > > with different releases of the card. > > - Card Tips:*Card name* - Tips on how the card can be effectively > > used, or combined with other cards. > > - Anime and Manga Appearances:*Card name* - Times where the card > > was used in one of the Anime or Manga. > > - Card Trivia:*Card name* - Various other small bits of > > information on the card which don't fit elsewhere. > > > > But now the issue is on the templates. > > Unfortunately, instead of putting the Gallery, Rulings, Errata, Tips, > > etc... index into one template. They each have their own, but that's not the > > big problem. > > The issue lies in this: > > While on the *Card name* page you can nicely link to the gallery within > > one of the Card Table templates using "Card Gallery:{{PAGENAME}}", that > > doesn't work that well on the "Card Gallery:*Card name*" page. So > > instead, while the Card's page links using {{PAGENAME}}, the others link > > with a template parameter. And that starts to not work out to well. If you > > move a Card page to a new title, all the links fix themselves and point to > > the correct page, because the thing in common with all the pages is always > > the *Card name* bit in the name, if that's different they're not part of > > each other. But, when you move a page like a "Card Errata:*Card name*" > > page, the links don't change, and now it's linking back to incorrect pages, > > which don't link back properly. > > > > So the real problem is, that the things like "Card Gallery:" should > > actually be namespaces. But there's an issue with asking the staff to do > > this. > > Go to http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Prefixindex/Card_Trivia: this > > is just one of them. There are 6 namespaces which would need to be created. > > In simple terms, as you see on that page list there, a Special:Prefixindex > > list, filled up, with only one of those sets, only gets half the list. So, > > count that number there, multiply it by 2, then multiply that by 6... And > > that's a few thousand pages which would need to be moved, then a request > > would need to be made to the staff, then things would need to be moved back. > > Sure it's possible to move things by bot, but what about the users. The > > Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki is a highly active wiki, we start moving, and editors start > > getting confused and recreating stuff. Either that or we come up with some > > way to basically shut down the wiki for a few days. But then, one of Wikia's > > large wiki is dead for a few days... > > > > So this is something that would need to be done by the Techs. Through > > the normal PHP edit, and a set of SQL queries. > > Basically the 6 new namespaces would need to be added, then a set of 6 > > SQL queries like this, would need to be run: > > UPDATE pages SET page_namespace = 104, page_name = > > SUBSTRING(page_namespace, 12) WHERE page_namespace = 0 AND 'Card_Trivia:' = > > LEFT(page_name, 12) > > Which of course, basically would go over all the pages in the Main > > namespace starting with 'Card_Trivia:', change the namespace to the new one > > (104 in the example), and then strip out the 'Card_Trivia:' from the start > > of the title so we don't have it now at Card_Trivia:Card_Trivia:*Card > > name*. > > > > Is this something that could still be requested of the techs? > > > > -- > > ~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of The Gaiapedia, Wikia Graphical Entertainment > > Project, and Wiki-Tools.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikia-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/wikia-l > > > > > > > -- > Bill W. 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