OK, It's in the requests list. Hopefully it won't take too long.
-- sannse
On Nov 8, 2007 8:56 PM, DanTMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, those are the prefixes that need converting to namespaces.
> (Emphasizing conversion of prefixes to namespaces rather than just a
> namespace addition, cause a page like [[Card Gallery:Dark Magician
> ]]should still be located at [[Card Gallery:Dark Magician]] after the
> conversion, the only difference being that {{NAMESPACE}} returns Card
> Gallery, and {{PAGENAME}} returns Dark Magician rather than both
> {{PAGENAME}} and {{FULLPAGENAME}} returning Card Gallery:Dark Magician.)
>
> There aren't any other prefixes to worry about. If the wiki needs a new
> Namespace later on for some reason we can do it the normal special page
> way. Though, it would be nice if the numericals (
> http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Allpages/45023678 ), and the set
> names ( http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Allpages/DB1-EN007 |
> http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Allpages/DB1-EN007 |
> http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Allpages/SDP-044 ) could be put
> into some magical type of special namespace. But, thats a whole
> different technical issue. ^_^ Regex Namespaces, now that would be an
> awesome update to MediaWiki.
>
> ~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of:
> -The Gaiapedia (http://gaia.wikia.com)
> -Wikia ACG on Wikia.com (http://wikia.com/wiki/Wikia_ACG)
> -and Wiki-Tools.com (http://wiki-tools.com)
>
>
> sannse wrote:
> > OK, so we'll get this on to the technical to-do list.
> >
> > Dantman, can you just confirm that the change needed is to add 6 new
> > namespaces:
> >
> > Card Gallery:
> > Card Rulings:
> > Card Errata:
> > Card Tips:
> > Anime and Manga Appearances:
> > Card Trivia:
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -- sannse
> >
> > ----
> > Lisa "sannse" Carter
> > Wikia Community and Technical Support Team
> > http://www.wikia.com/
> >
> > On Oct 25, 2007 6:42 PM, DanTMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Ok, it took a while to get the Community to actually put in their
> >> feedback instead of just staring at other parts of the site.
> >> http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh%21:Community_Portal#Prefixes_to_Namespaces
> >> There are 3 confirmations from active users of the site. You can see
> >> from the IRC Log above that one of the most active Sysops, Deltaneos
> >> gives his support of the change. And there isn't anything listed on that
> >> page, but the wiki's founder TwoTailedFox also said in IRC that he likes
> >> the idea. Feel free to ask him for confirmation if you want it...
> >>
> >> So that would be something nice to have done. At whatever time you do,
> >> since it's an active wiki would it be to much to ask for Wikia's staff
> >> to put a notice inside of the Sitenotice and Anonnotice a day before
> >> that the next day during a scheduled time the database will be locked
> >> and some pages may be temporarily unavailable during the change?
> >>
> >> ~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of:
> >> -The Gaiapedia (http://gaia.wikia.com)
> >> -Wikia ACG on Wikia.com (http://wikia.com/wiki/Wikia_ACG)
> >> -and Wiki-Tools.com (http://wiki-tools.com)
> >>
> >> Bill Kaufmann wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi DanTMan -
> >>>
> >>> Great ideas and thoughts. But I want to make sure that someone from
> >>> Yu-Gi-Oh! requested the changes you mention below. Is the entire
> >>> community aware of what you intend to do? If not, then I am reluctant
> >>> to suggest we change anything (either behind the scenes or in full
> >>> view) until they are a part of the discussion. I would much prefer
> >>> that you show the Yu-Gi-Oh! community the possibilities on a talk page
> >>> and have them embrace the help rather than force something on them
> >>> which they don't feel is needed. If the majority of the community
> >>> doesn't acknowledge the improvements you are offering, then I think
> >>> it's wise to give them space until they do.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Bill
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 9/23/07, *DanTMan* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> *Short Summary:* Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki needs Namespaces, but it can't be
> >>> done the normal way through the staff Special page because of the
> >>> wiki's size and the quantity of pages.
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> I've been starting to out the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki lately. While they
> >>> are quite well off in editors and admins, they are largely
> >>> undeveloped with any of the normal /complex/ templates and other
> >>> tricks.
> >>> Which brings me to a bit of an issue I'm trying to solve:
> >>> On the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki they basically have 7 specific pages for a card:
> >>>
> >>> * /Card name/ - The card page with the information on the card.
> >>> * Card Gallery:/Card name/ - A gallery of the different images
> >>> of the card (Cards can be from multiple packs, starter sets,
> >>> promos, be 1st Edition, or holofoil, have English/Japanese
> >>> versions, and even have other versions with different lore
> >>> (the card text or effect))
> >>> * Card Rulings:/Card name/ - Lists various Rulings used in
> >>> various game tournaments and other official rulings about
> >>> the card.
> >>> * Card Errata:/Card name/ - A list/table/explanation of the
> >>> various changes to things on the card such as it's lore,
> >>> which were changed with different releases of the card.
> >>> * Card Tips:/Card name/ - Tips on how the card can be
> >>> effectively used, or combined with other cards.
> >>> * Anime and Manga Appearances:/Card name/ - Times where the
> >>> card was used in one of the Anime or Manga.
> >>> * Card Trivia:/Card name/ - Various other small bits of
> >>> information on the card which don't fit elsewhere.
> >>>
> >>> But now the issue is on the templates.
> >>> Unfortunately, instead of putting the Gallery, Rulings, Errata,
> >>> Tips, etc... index into one template. They each have their own,
> >>> but that's not the big problem.
> >>> The issue lies in this:
> >>> While on the /Card name/ page you can nicely link to the gallery
> >>> within one of the Card Table templates using "Card
> >>> Gallery:{{PAGENAME}}", that doesn't work that well on the "Card
> >>> Gallery:/Card name/" page. So instead, while the Card's page links
> >>> using {{PAGENAME}}, the others link with a template parameter. And
> >>> that starts to not work out to well. If you move a Card page to a
> >>> new title, all the links fix themselves and point to the correct
> >>> page, because the thing in common with all the pages is always the
> >>> /Card name/ bit in the name, if that's different they're not part
> >>> of each other. But, when you move a page like a "Card Errata:/Card
> >>> name/" page, the links don't change, and now it's linking back to
> >>> incorrect pages, which don't link back properly.
> >>>
> >>> So the real problem is, that the things like "Card Gallery:"
> >>> should actually be namespaces. But there's an issue with asking
> >>> the staff to do this.
> >>> Go to
> >>> http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Prefixindex/Card_Trivia: this
> >>> is just one of them. There are 6 namespaces which would need to be
> >>> created. In simple terms, as you see on that page list there, a
> >>> Special:Prefixindex list, filled up, with only one of those sets,
> >>> only gets half the list. So, count that number there, multiply it
> >>> by 2, then multiply that by 6... And that's a few thousand pages
> >>> which would need to be moved, then a request would need to be made
> >>> to the staff, then things would need to be moved back. Sure it's
> >>> possible to move things by bot, but what about the users. The
> >>> Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki is a highly active wiki, we start moving, and
> >>> editors start getting confused and recreating stuff. Either that
> >>> or we come up with some way to basically shut down the wiki for a
> >>> few days. But then, one of Wikia's large wiki is dead for a few
> >>> days...
> >>>
> >>> So this is something that would need to be done by the Techs.
> >>> Through the normal PHP edit, and a set of SQL queries.
> >>> Basically the 6 new namespaces would need to be added, then a set
> >>> of 6 SQL queries like this, would need to be run:
> >>> |UPDATE pages SET page_namespace = 104, page_name =
> >>> SUBSTRING(page_namespace, 12) WHERE page_namespace = 0 AND
> >>> 'Card_Trivia:' = LEFT(page_name, 12)|
> >>> Which of course, basically would go over all the pages in the Main
> >>> namespace starting with 'Card_Trivia:', change the namespace to
> >>> the new one (104 in the example), and then strip out the
> >>> 'Card_Trivia:' from the start of the title so we don't have it now
> >>> at |Card_Trivia:||Card_Trivia:/Card name/|.
> >>>
> >>> Is this something that could still be requested of the techs?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> ~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of The Gaiapedia, Wikia Graphical
> >>> Entertainment Project, and Wiki-Tools.com
> >>>
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