https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17806
--- Comment #14 from [email protected] 2009-05-21 17:34:46 UTC --- (In reply to comment #12) > Internally, you have log_type and log_action. Currently, most log views are > separated by log_type, not log_action. For example, log_action="block" and > log_action="unblock" are both in the log_type="block" category. Same with > deletions (you'll notice how undeletions and deletions are in the same place; > the same is true for protections / unprotections). Apparently, there's a log_type 'suppress', but no log_type 'hide'. So hide actions are recorded as deletions, well, since we have a log_type for suppress, I suppose we could have one for 'hide' too. It would allow to have a separate log. > It may be a better idea to start splitting by log_action rather than log_type, > if possible. Perhaps not by default, but the option should be there in the > interface. Being able to filter a log by log_action would be interesting indeed, to have a list of undeletions for example (so a better control of 'selective deletions'). (In reply to comment #13) > Sure, so perhaps the watchlist should list when the log entry for an action > affecting a watched page is changed (hidden/unhidden/whatever). I think that > should be done, actually - I'll file a new bug shortly. I agree, that would be an improvement. But there are still logs with no target, and plenty of pages that are not heavily watched. > ..but I don't understand how these log entries would be "lost" or > "inaccessible" or not transparent. For pages, it states clearly what page was > affected. For logs, it states what log was affected, but it doesn't state > clearly what that log entry was about (in some cases it can't, since that's > what was hidden). I'm still trying to think through how to make this more > readily intelligible to the user, as it's really not satisfactory right now, > IMO; please see bug 18335. The issue is that the use of oversight-like tools has become quite controversial on enwiki, so users want to be able to see all those actions recorded in one place to be able to challenge them, review them one by one if they're sysop. If they are hosted in the deletion log, for 1 of those actions, there would be maybe 1000 deletions, they would be lost among deletions. So you couldn't find them easily, or you'd have to extract them specifically, which would be a pain and not live. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
