https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17806





--- Comment #11 from [email protected]  2009-05-21 02:32:08 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #9)

When mentioning the watchlist, I considered hidden log entries (not edits). If
you hide an entry in the user creation log, it won't show up in your watchlist
(AFAIK, you can't watch the user creation log). And it's also the case for the
move log, protection log, etc, even if there is a target, it doesn't show up in
your watchlist (while actions to hide revisions are shown).

Again, revision visibility is not the same as deletion, the effect is
completely different (see comment #2). Those entries would be lost in the
deletion log and largely inaccessible, thereby decreasing the transparency and
abuse prevention potential, and so reducing usability and chances for the
software to be enabled for admins on enwiki. Maybe it wouldn't be a big problem
on wikis with low activity, but on enwiki where we have on average half a dozen
deletions by minute, with peaks at several dozens by minute, it's impractical.

(In reply to comment #10)

We can hide the following for logs: log summary, and/or username, and/or action
and target. They can also be hidden by admins when enabled, at least in the
config on testwiki. Again, I was speaking of hidden log entries, that don't
show up in watchlists or histories, not edits.

An admin can check hidden content only when it is aware of it, if those actions
are lost in the deletion log, the check won't be possible. Given the
controversial nature of this, we can't afford a "don't bother until a problem
is finally found" attitude.


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