https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17806





--- Comment #8 from [email protected]  2009-05-20 22:45:24 UTC ---
A separation of the logs is justified from a technical point of view, as those
actions are of a completely different kind. It is justified for analysis and
statistics purposes, and as said above, for transparency and abuse prevention.
Considering the amount of controversy (past and still present) surrounding the
use of oversight-like tools, it is even more justified. Furthermore,
preliminary discussions on the new tool, see [[Wikipedia talk:Selective
deletion]], indicate this is a big issue for the community in enabling this for
admins.

Log proliferation is not an issue in this case. First, I do not see why a
person would like to see both the deletion log and hide log (and it is my
understanding that the suppress log is already separated), but not each one
separately, while the inverse is certainly true. An other log won't be a
problem for a specific page, as there's a few of them in most cases, all
accessible in the main log, and a more precise filtering shouldn't create any
problem. And globally, it would be a problem only if the logs were of the same
nature, which is not the case.

As for visibility, of course if an admin hides a summary on ANI, it will be
highly visible, but there are plenty of pages were this will not be so visible
and abuse - or mistakes - may take place. And again, log entries can also be
hidden, and their visibility is generally much lesser, as it doesn't show up in
histories or watchlists.


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