https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30208

--- Comment #82 from [email protected] 2011-09-16 07:57:57 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #80)
> (In reply to comment #79)
> > (In reply to comment #74)
> > > > Someone editing Wikipedia in their spare time, contributing useful 
> > > > information
> > > > may not wait 4 days. They may never come back.
> > > 
> > > Then they probably wouldn't have stayed anyway. 
> > I disagree.
> > 
> > > 4 days and 10 edits is not a
> > > large commitment, considering that most experienced longtime editors have 
> > > well
> > > over 10,000 edits over the course of many years.
> > 
> > It's very different to set such kind of requirement (or others much higher) 
> > for
> > things like votations, and for core features like creating a page.
> > 
> > If person A wants to create an article about Foomatics, *on his own time*, 
> > *for
> > free*, requiring him to eg. "patrol 10 pages before doing that" will not
> > encourage new editors to stay.
> 
> We get that you don't agree with us, but we have the stats on our side;
> nonetheless, this bug is (for the time being, at least) marked as resolved,
> won't fix.  Let it go.


I've reopened this -  it's long from  finished.  The refusal to  conduct  this
trial  is based not  on  'buckets' of stats, for there aren't  any. It's based
on  some 'stats' of extremely  dubious provenance that  were made up and
published at  Wikimedia. The refusal to  allow this trial  is not  based on a
decision  of the WMF, it's a unilateral  decision  by  one or two single-minded
WMF staffers whose paid status has gone to  their heads -  to the extent even 
that  they can't  even keep  a civil tongue in his head when posting  here.

What is  more important? - continuing  to  allow free rein to  the vandals,
attackers, and spammers under the completely  and utterly false assumption 
that  30% of our best  editors began their Wiki  career as vandals,?  Or to  to
 encourage serious editors to wait  an hour or so before their new article goes
live -  and above all doing  more to  retain  the good contributors that  we
already  have and desperately  need. The attitudes expressed here purportedly 
in  the name of the WMF, have already  sown  the seeds of exodus from  the
Wikipedia of some of our most  competent  contributors and policy  watchers -
is that  what  is wanted?

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