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In T193728#4182350, @Denny wrote:@Psychoslave, I am not sure I entirely follow.
You said "there are contributors of Wikidata that do make massive imports of external data banks, regardless of the corresponding terms of use."
Then you refer to an email on a closed list that I cannot access in order to point out that there are some contributors who might or might not do that in the future. So it's not about things that have already be done? But you said that there already are contributors who have done it?
I'm sorry for the closed nature of this mailling-list, I made a RFC to open its archives publicly, but it doesn't depends on my sole will.
Thus said, the email was to point the admitted state of mind of some people that I thought contributor of the Wikidata project, a mistake according to @Karima clarification above. Thus said, it stay the mindstate of big data actors which are highly interested in Wikidata, which is enough to sustain my point which was that we have to be vigilant with the legality of what is imported into Wikidata.
For what as already been done, yes, there also are actual problems, not indicated on this email, but as pointed in the next sentences about 50M of statements where imported from misc. Wikipedia despite your own statement that it would not be allowed in 2012. And other millions of statements would need further evaluation on where do they come from to determine if it is legal for us to pretend publishing them under CC-0. For that, as already proposed, it would be great to have improved report tools exposing statements group by common data bank source and their corresponding terms of use.
Given the goal of Wikidata to release everything under CC-0, I don't see any solution that would enable to achieve that legally without making at least one source mandatory for every statement, and make sure that the database don't exploit any single data bank beyond what this data banks allow to import legally under CC-0. Does anyone else see an other solutions that fit legal usability in an international context?
Can you provide a list of those massive imports, or at least of some examples of such? Otherwise I am not sure how this ticket could be resolved - the license of Wikidata is clear, and there seems no legal uncertainty to me.
The list should be providable through the improved reporting tool described above. Should I make a specific ticket?
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