Hi Nadja,
Of course, thanks for the pointer. Yes, I'd agree that 19788's ontology be closely reviewed for inclusion. 19788:2 standardizes the Dublin Core properties, the same I recommend for [[wikidata]] provenance data, the same slated for the [[wikidata]] ontology. But more to your point is that the entire ISO corpus would fit really well if it were viewed as a topic map whose topics and sub-topics can be referenced from [[wikidata]] artifacts such as property definitions. To me, [[wikidata]] is an opportunity to bring technical communities togethr, not so much an opportunity to create a new one. Your note is a great example of this. Thanks - john On 13.06.2012 13:22, Nadja Kutz wrote: > John McClure wrote: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic_Map [1]s gives links to iso/iec 13250" > > ??? > There seems to be a misunderstanding. I was having rather the meta descriptions of general ISO items in mind, not the description of a topic map per se. (and apart from that I thought wikidata wanted to use RDF ? ) > The ISO site is rather cryptic and most of it is not accessible (see e.g. http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/open/jtc1sc36 [2]) however I understood sentences (see http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=50772 [3]) like: > > "ISO/IEC 19788-1:2011 provides principles, rules and structures for the specification of the description of a learning resource; it identifies and specifies the attributes of a data element as well as the rules governing their use. The key principles stated in ISO/IEC 19788-1:2011 are informed by a user requirements-driven context with the aim of supporting multilingual and cultural adaptability requirements from a global perspective. > > ISO/IEC 19788-1:2011 is information-technology-neutral and defines a set of common approaches, i.e. methodologies and constructs, which apply to the development of the subsequent parts of ISO/IEC 19788." > as that the ISO is in the process of turning parts of their database into a machine-readable standard format. So I assumed that > the "identification of a data element" for learning ressources could be sort of planned to be extendend to all of (or already have?) their standards, which reaches from screw threads > http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=51386 [4] > over mathematical symbols > http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=31897 [5] > to copper alloys > http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_tc_browse.htm?commid=47228 [6] > If that would be the case then companies etc. could link and conform to standards (here for example an unlinked reference > to a DIN standard for > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wärmeleitzahl [7] in a product for insulation: http://isofloc.de/index.php?technische-daten [8]) > > That is especially companies could be interested in promoting parts of their technical data in a ISO standartized format (which makes the comparision of technical data of products easier) > so for example crawlers could collect products which set out certain technical specifications. Organizations could > link easier to companies which conform e.g. to social standards etc. > So when I wrote that Wikidata could eventually base their data on the ISO standards then I meant that it > would make sense to have a structural correspondence > between ISO standards and definitions (or e.g. standards from the DIN http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Institut_f%C3%BCr_Normung [9] or other similar organizations) and the wikidata ontology, because wikidata would for materials etc. anyways have an entry for the corresponding standards. > Friedrich Roehrs wrote:"1c. You're arguing over CHF 200 -- which extraordinarily-cheaply and > > fundamentally PROTECTS the MWF from copyright infringement suits? Can > the SNAK architecture provide that reassurance to the MWF community?" > > I don't know what you mean by that. As you can see in the ISO links: > http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=31895 [10] > each item alone costs something in that range. Links: ------ [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic_Map [2] http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/open/jtc1sc36 [3] http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=50772 [4] http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=51386 [5] http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=31897 [6] http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_tc_browse.htm?commid=47228 [7] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wärmeleitzahl [8] http://isofloc.de/index.php?technische-daten [9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Institut_f%C3%BCr_Normung [10] http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=31895
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