Hoi, It does not quality anything. It is plain wrong. Thanks, GerardM On 30 April 2015 at 15:06, Joe Filceolaire <filceola...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Exactly. The "official name " property always has the name in the original > script. But we can and should have the transliteration in a qualifier. > > Joe > On 30 Apr 2015 06:13, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hoi, >> We transliterate every name from one script to the other. Transliteration >> the official name is exactly the one you should not transliterate.. What is >> left after transliteration is not official. >> Thanks, >> GerardM >> >> On 29 April 2015 at 18:54, Thomas Douillard <thomas.douill...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> It's always possible to transliterate the official name >>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1448>property. Of course this >>> should be done by a gadget, or we may have to find a special treatment for >>> the ''name'' properties. >>> >>> 2015-04-28 23:06 GMT+02:00 Joe Filceolaire <filceola...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> I agree up to a point. Transliteration is not appropriate for labels >>>> for all items. There are however a few categories of items for which >>>> transliterated labels are appropriate. For example : >>>> * English labels for villages and towns >>>> * English labels for people >>>> *English labels for bands and albums >>>> I'm sure there are others that could use this too. >>>> >>>> Joe >>>> On 27 Apr 2015 18:09, "Leon Liesener" <leon.liese...@wikipedia.de> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The problem with ISO is that it's a standard for language-independent >>>>> transliteration to Latin script. Since labels on Wikidata are >>>>> language-dependent, making use of ISO does not make sense really. If >>>>> you use ISO for Russian names in Cyrillic script, the label you get is >>>>> not in English. It's still in Russian but transliterated to Latin >>>>> script. ISO thus would only fit as an alias for the Russian interface >>>>> language, if at all. >>>>> >>>>> 2015-04-26 22:39 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com >>>>> >: >>>>> > Hoi, >>>>> > <grin> ISO is a reliable source; it is THE standard </grin> >>>>> Wikipedia is >>>>> > definitely not a standard by its own admission. >>>>> > Thanks, >>>>> > GerardM >>>>> > >>>>> > On 26 April 2015 at 22:37, Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On 2015-04-26 22:33, Gerard Meijssen wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Hoi >>>>> >>> My point is that it is not a given that we should follow any >>>>> WIkipedia >>>>> >>> for anything. Also the point of romanisation of Russian is not for >>>>> the >>>>> >>> benefit of Russian speakers, it is for the speakers of English. >>>>> >>> Thanks, >>>>> >>> GerardM >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On one hand, yes. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On the other hand, no reliable source uses ISO. When NYT writes >>>>> about a >>>>> >> Russian person, they do not use ISO, they use what the English >>>>> Wikipedia >>>>> >> uses or smth similar. In my passport, they do not use ISO >>>>> (fortunately), why >>>>> >> should then ISO be used on Wikidata in an entry about me? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Cheers >>>>> >> Yaroslav >>>>> >> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>>> >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > Wikidata-l mailing list >>>>> > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > >
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