I meant "add automatically the transliteration", not replace the name.
This is a good candidate : we know for sure the source and the target language (the one of the user) so a good choice for transliteration method is always possible, and we don't pretend it should be the way to say orally the name in the target language. It's just a transliteration of the official name. 2015-04-30 15:14 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>: > Hoi, > It does not quality anything. It is plain wrong. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 30 April 2015 at 15:06, Joe Filceolaire <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Exactly. The "official name " property always has the name in the >> original script. But we can and should have the transliteration in a >> qualifier. >> >> Joe >> On 30 Apr 2015 06:13, "Gerard Meijssen" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hoi, >>> We transliterate every name from one script to the other. >>> Transliteration the official name is exactly the one you should not >>> transliterate.. What is left after transliteration is not official. >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> On 29 April 2015 at 18:54, Thomas Douillard <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It's always possible to transliterate the official name >>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1448>property. Of course this >>>> should be done by a gadget, or we may have to find a special treatment for >>>> the ''name'' properties. >>>> >>>> 2015-04-28 23:06 GMT+02:00 Joe Filceolaire <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> I agree up to a point. Transliteration is not appropriate for labels >>>>> for all items. There are however a few categories of items for which >>>>> transliterated labels are appropriate. For example : >>>>> * English labels for villages and towns >>>>> * English labels for people >>>>> *English labels for bands and albums >>>>> I'm sure there are others that could use this too. >>>>> >>>>> Joe >>>>> On 27 Apr 2015 18:09, "Leon Liesener" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The problem with ISO is that it's a standard for language-independent >>>>>> transliteration to Latin script. Since labels on Wikidata are >>>>>> language-dependent, making use of ISO does not make sense really. If >>>>>> you use ISO for Russian names in Cyrillic script, the label you get is >>>>>> not in English. It's still in Russian but transliterated to Latin >>>>>> script. ISO thus would only fit as an alias for the Russian interface >>>>>> language, if at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015-04-26 22:39 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected] >>>>>> >: >>>>>> > Hoi, >>>>>> > <grin> ISO is a reliable source; it is THE standard </grin> >>>>>> Wikipedia is >>>>>> > definitely not a standard by its own admission. >>>>>> > Thanks, >>>>>> > GerardM >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On 26 April 2015 at 22:37, Yaroslav M. Blanter <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On 2015-04-26 22:33, Gerard Meijssen wrote: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Hoi >>>>>> >>> My point is that it is not a given that we should follow any >>>>>> WIkipedia >>>>>> >>> for anything. Also the point of romanisation of Russian is not >>>>>> for the >>>>>> >>> benefit of Russian speakers, it is for the speakers of English. >>>>>> >>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>> GerardM >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On one hand, yes. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On the other hand, no reliable source uses ISO. When NYT writes >>>>>> about a >>>>>> >> Russian person, they do not use ISO, they use what the English >>>>>> Wikipedia >>>>>> >> uses or smth similar. In my passport, they do not use ISO >>>>>> (fortunately), why >>>>>> >> should then ISO be used on Wikidata in an entry about me? >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Cheers >>>>>> >> Yaroslav >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>>>> >> [email protected] >>>>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Wikidata-l mailing list >>>>>> > [email protected] >>>>>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > >
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