"Culture" seems a good idea. I was considering whether "associated peoples" might be better than "inhabited by" - with a constraint to make it clear that values had to be an instance of a nationality, ethnic group, population, etc., rather than individuals. It seems to overlap a bit with "culture".
This would let us have "countries" like: * Aztec empire : associated peoples : Mexica (and others) * France : associated peoples : French people but also could be used for both historic & contemporary cultural concepts/objects/sites/etc: * Armenian dance : associated peoples : Armenian people * Sutton Hoo : associated peoples : Anglo-Saxons * Highland dress : associated peoples : Scottish people Unlike the culture idea, it wouldn't be implicitly "dominant culture". This may or many not be a good thing :-) Andrew. On 14 January 2016 at 10:48, Lawrence Troup <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi James, > > This is quite similar to my proposal for a "culture" property [1], which > would be used e.g. for Tenochtitlan [Q13695] has "culture" Mexica [Q3307681] > (and probably also has culture Aztec [Q12542]). You could potentially extend > the usage of this attribute so that you could have the "culture" of the > Aztec Empire set to Mexica. > > I agree with Andrew that "inhabited by" is a property that needs adding - > though in this case, it wouldn't indicate that Mexica were rulers of the > Aztec Empire, just that they lived in it. > > Thanks, > Lawrence > > [1] "culture" property proposal: > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Creative_work#culture > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 at 09:49 Andrew Gray <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi James, >> >> Interesting question, this one. There's no easy way to link, eg, >> "France" and "French people". >> >> We have a property for "category of associated people" (P1792), so: >> France [P1792] Category:French people; & in turn that has a >> "category's main topic": Category:French people [P301] French people - >> but this is very convoluted! >> >> I wonder if this might be something looking for a suitable new >> property - "inhabited by"? "associated nationality"?. Alternatively, >> we could use P17, "country", on the item for the population group - >> this is a bit generic, but it would work. >> >> Andrew. >> >> On 13 January 2016 at 18:58, <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I want to add relationships between Mexica :Q3307681and Aztec Empire >> > :Q794210 [1] where Mexicas were an indigenous people of the Valley of >> > Mexico, known today as the rulers of the Aztec empire. I haven't found >> > any properties that seem appropriate to me so I'd like to get your >> > insight before adding any. What properties would be most appropriate? >> > >> > [1] ConceptMap link: http://bit.ly/1RMVgsD >> > >> > Regards, >> > James Weaver >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikidata mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> >> >> -- >> - Andrew Gray >> [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > -- - Andrew Gray [email protected] _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
