Hi James, Simply edit https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic#associated_people to add support for the proposed property (or add any comments you have).
Thanks, Lawrence On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 at 19:56 <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Lawrence. I agree with your approach. What is the best way to > show support for this new property? > > Please advise, > James Weaver > > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016, at 01:01 PM, Lawrence Troup wrote: > > Hi James, Andrew, > > I've now created a proposal for an 'associated people' property [1]. If > you're happy with this proposal, can add support for it? Or provide any > comments on it. > > Thanks, > Lawrence > > [1] > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic#associated_people > > On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 at 14:53 Lawrence Troup <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi James, > > I think the problem with 'ruled by' is that it could be confused with > 'head of state', which is used for the reverse relationship when the > referring to an individual leader (rather than a ruling people). > > I think the correct approach here would be to get the 'associated people' > property defined, allowing multiple peoples to be associated with e.g. the > Aztec Empire. Then when the people are the rulers of the society, have an > 'instance of' qualifier on that particular people. > > To give the full example: > Aztec Empire [Q12542] : 'associated people' = Mexica [Q3307681] with > Qualifier 'instance of' Ruling Party [Q1346215]. > > I'm not certain that Q1346215 is the most appropriate item to use here, > but hopefully you get the idea. > > Thanks, > Lawrence > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 at 13:38 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks for your responses, Andrew and Lawrence. What are thoughts about a > new property (e.g. "ruled by" or "governed by") that expresses this > sentiment? > > Please advise, > James Weaver > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016, at 05:48 AM, Lawrence Troup wrote: > > Hi James, > > This is quite similar to my proposal for a "culture" property [1], which > would be used e.g. for Tenochtitlan [Q13695] has "culture" Mexica > [Q3307681] (and probably also has culture Aztec [Q12542]). You could > potentially extend the usage of this attribute so that you could have the > "culture" of the Aztec Empire set to Mexica. > > I agree with Andrew that "inhabited by" is a property that needs adding - > though in this case, it wouldn't indicate that Mexica were rulers of the > Aztec Empire, just that they lived in it. > > Thanks, > Lawrence > > [1] "culture" property proposal: > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Creative_work#culture > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 at 09:49 Andrew Gray <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi James, > > Interesting question, this one. There's no easy way to link, eg, > "France" and "French people". > > We have a property for "category of associated people" (P1792), so: > France [P1792] Category:French people; & in turn that has a > "category's main topic": Category:French people [P301] French people - > but this is very convoluted! > > I wonder if this might be something looking for a suitable new > property - "inhabited by"? "associated nationality"?. Alternatively, > we could use P17, "country", on the item for the population group - > this is a bit generic, but it would work. > > Andrew. > > On 13 January 2016 at 18:58, <[email protected]> wrote: > > I want to add relationships between Mexica :Q3307681and > > > > > > :Q794210 [1] where Mexicas were an indigenous people of the Valley of > > > Mexico, known today as the rulers of the Aztec empire. I haven't found > > any properties that seem appropriate to me so I'd like to get your > > insight before adding any. What properties would be most appropriate? > > > > [1] ConceptMap link: http://bit.ly/1RMVgsD > > > > Regards, > > James Weaver > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikidata mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > > > -- > - Andrew Gray > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > *_______________________________________________* > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > *_______________________________________________* > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >
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