Thank you. This 16 year library veteran is utterly confounded by this concept of "catalog" (does that make me a bully?). If that was the best option available at some prior point- repurposing some property for some new need- all well and good. But it seems clear it was (and is) not a clear, intuitive, or agreeable solution. Make a new damn property and move on, already. And as a relative newbie, reading this (and other) threads dominated by self-righteous, obnoxious, belligerent power(drunk) users makes me LOL at the hollow high-minded talk of fostering "community". Good luck with that, y'all.
*David Lowe | The New York Public Library**Specialist II, Photography Collection* *Photographers' Identities Catalog <http://pic.nypl.org>* On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 7:42 AM, James Heald <jpm.he...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have now created a property proposal for a new property, "Wikidata focus > list", to act as a drop-in replacement for some current uses of P972. > > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Wik > idata_focus_list > > Let's sort this thing out. > > -- James. > > > > On 06/01/2018 10:40, Maarten Dammers wrote: > >> On 05-01-18 22:55, Jane Darnell wrote: >> >>> I object to your use of the catalog property to link to something that >>> is not a catalog. I don't see why my objection leads you to expect me to >>> offer an alternative way to track your project. I am not responsible for >>> your project and don't understand what it is. If you can't understand that >>> then you should not probably not be editing Wikidata. >>> >> To add to that. I see three things: >> 1. Using the wrong property ( catalog (P972) ). Solution -> move to >> another property, this depends on point 3 >> 2. Notability of the people BLT. Solution -> Add more information and >> links to establish notability (or worse case, delete) >> 3. Using Wikidata as a shopping list for a Wikiproject. Have a discussion >> if we, the Wikidata community, want that (point 1 might not be needed if >> the end result is don't want) >> >> For the people like Jane and I, you're basically squatting the current >> catalog (P972) property. So we care most about point 1. Point 2 and 3 are >> for the BLT community to solve. >> >> Point 3 is probably the hardest one. On https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ >> Wikipedia:Meetup/Black_Lunch_Table/Lists_of_Articles I found the >> shopping lists for the BLT project. People seem to be in the hand curated >> list and in the Listeria list. Clicking around I found >> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20011585 which seems to indicate that you >> had a Black Lunch Table meetup on 9 december 2017 at " The 8th Floor" and >> judging from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Black_Lunch_T >> able/Triangle_Jan_2018 that seems correct. At the bottom of this page is >> another Listeria shopping list based on this. I'm not sure we should store >> this kind of data on Wikidata. >> >> Maarten >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >
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