Hi Derek

Yip the online workshop has started and keeping me pretty busy. 70
registered users on the Group!

Derek wrote:

> Now I think there are problems in learning to USE wikis (Even the new liquid
> threads have a prominent edit button that does not work), think **about**
> wikis, and think about open learning.  I'm not convinced we have a nice
> enough and functional 'place' on the wiki (ie in a wiki environment) to talk
> about the collaborative work we are doing.

A couple of thoughts:

1. I think wiki's are about collaboration and connecting with people
with added advantage of some pretty impressive flexibility to support
innovation.  There is a difficult trade-off - the more "usable" you
make a technology like this - the less flexible it becomes to create
and do new things. The best example I can give is Mediawiki's template
engine. Think about it - the largest encyclopaedia in the history of
human kind was developed using Mediawiki software - with all its
strengths and usability barriers. Compare for example the html code in
your "view source" link compared to the wiki syntax . I think that
this is a step forward for humanity <smile>. Granted we still have a
long way to go - but we use what we've got.
2. Have you reported the prominent Edit link that doesn't work? I've
been testing the technology pretty extensively and haven't found a non-
functioning edit link. So please help us out - that's a pretty serious
bug.
3. A key value of the WikiEducator community the fact that we believe:
"In a forward-looking disposition working together to find appropriate
and sustainable solutions for e-learning futures."

We do this the open source way - releasing early and frequently.
Liquid Threads is a major innovation - to the best of my knowledge the
only FLOSS wiki with an integrated threaded discussion feature. Its
pretty powerful because each Thread has a unique data-base ID and
incorporates the power of Mediawiki's history. WikiEducator is the
first live deployment of LQT and we're pretty proud that we're leading
innovation in this way.

Sure - there will be bugs and opportunities for refinement - but
WikiEducator has put our money where our mouths are <smile>. We're
pushing the innovation envelope in the spirit of the open source
movement and what it will mean for learning and the development
agenda.

I'm very pleased that someone of your calibre and experience in the
open source movement in education is taking a peek at what we're
doing. Our community would benefit tremendously from your skills and I
hope that you'll stay with us in turning this project into a global
success!

Chat to you soon.
Wayne




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