Hi Everybody, Wayne, it has been hands-on learning on how new technologies and structures are received by "established" educators.( remember the FLOSS4EDU india Chapter at Delhi, Feb-March 2007?!)
I have been following wikidiscussion and it is kind of re-assuring to see WE evolve, mature and support... My response to this discussion thread: As teachers, do we use the same instructional design for textbook, classroom, radio, tv, internet related learning environments? I am afraid "E" can NOT be tunneled to mean only "electronic" tool. The influence of "E" ( as in evolved, extended, enhanced, everywhere...) has far reaching impact on "how we learn" and "why we learn". The change in the structures of knowledge transaction is apparent to the personnel dealing with traditional Instructional Designs. May be, it is this change in structures, designs and transactions that, I feel, is leading to mind blocks and resistance in acknowleding a revolution like change in the field of education! Will be writing more later on... Thanks Nutan On Jul 15, 5:35 am, "Wong Leo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you all , > > The reason I asked about this is many times I found many times people pay > attention to the form more, in my own teachinhg practice , including some ( > very small ) part of Elearning was a good choice , coz internet technology > has opened up many new exciting avenues for learning providers to explore in > trying to promote and encourage learning at all levels. > > The concept of learning-on-demand( or learning at needs ) increases > relevancy. The concept of anytime, anywhere learning promotes lifelong > learning and makes distance a problem of the past. > > However, to promote use of an formal e-learning site and to retain > customers at the site, there is a need to redefine the "e" from formally > meaning "electronic" to include the meaning of "experience," "engagement," > and other high level contexts. Then, there is a chance to provide > appropriate attention to content development and to return to the basics and > fundamentals of a teacher-learner situation. > > I am a Chinese teacher of college I teach mass media research , To further > reflect on my own teaching , that is why I asked the question , last year I > began to introduce my students with the idea of networked learning , however > I found it is not helpful for most of students ( for most of them it is just > the tool) ,for so called self-regulated learning ,most of them need to be > helped in many ways , and the assignment they gave me are full of data , but > lack of a clear focus and logic , and some are too messy to read , with > some fancy stuff they are trying to impress me , and some of them don't know > how to give a good presentation ,one of my students called Kevin .his final > assignment is called The problems and solutions of self-learning,you can > watch his slides here <http://www.haokanbu.com/story/5258/>, ( he is one of > my favourite students) he did a survey based research on how his peer > classmate treat the web2.0 technology and found amazing result , let me know > if you are famliare with this situation , > > If it is really the learning are different , but how ? and how as a teacher > can trigger these kind of learning happen ? > > and I totally agree with what Derek said , I think sometimes we just need a > term to make a difference , like education2.0 , when people despise this > term ,however manytimes they still use this term to talk about things . > > Stephen , thank you for your feedback , would you please specify with what > is exactly the type of thing or learning to make Elearning different , or it > is just a mindset thing like Derek said ? > > Thank you > > Leo > > 2008/7/15 Stephen Downes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > we don't talk about "ppLearning" (pencil & paper > > learning) or "cbLearning" (chalk board learning) > > > No - but we do talk about 'group learning' and 'rote learning' and > > 'programmed learning' (among others). So maybe we should regard it as a > > historical quirk that the chalkboard and the pen and paper don't get a > > mention when we talk about types of learning. > > > The question is whether the internet (or other variants of e-) constitute a > > form of learning that is distinct. And - with things like Web 2.0 and blogs > > and wikis and all that - I think that the e- *does* constitute a type of > > learning fundamentally different from the pen and paper, both in terms of > > methodology, and in terms of result. > > > -- Stephen > > > valerie wrote: > > > It's all about Learning. > > > As someone observed, we don't talk about "ppLearning" (pencil & paper > > learning) or "cbLearning" (chalk board learning) - the "e" is just a > > tool and part of the process. However, it does provide many new > > possibilities to support a much larger and more diverse population of > > learners. > > > On Jul 13, 5:45 am, "Wong Leo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > This is the question I have been thinking , > > what do you think ? > > > Leo > > > -- > > HELP 项目论坛https://groups.google.com/group/helpelephantsliveproject > > > -- > > --- > > > Stephen Downes ~ Researcher ~ National Research Council > > Canadahttp://www.downes.ca ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Free Learning > > -- > HELP 项目论坛https://groups.google.com/group/helpelephantsliveproject- Hide > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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