Nutan, I can certainly relate to your ideas on the "e" being more than "electronic". After integrating technology into my EFL classes for the past 13 years, I can say that "engaged" learning would be a perfect fit for the "e" . My experiences have indicated that both students and teachers are engaged when applying the Internet and computer-based programs.
Thank you, Nellie On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Teachereducatorsnetwork < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Everybody, > > Wayne, it has been hands-on learning on how new technologies and > structures are received by "established" educators.( remember the > FLOSS4EDU india Chapter at Delhi, Feb-March 2007?!) > > I have been following wikidiscussion and it is kind of re-assuring to > see WE evolve, mature and support... > > My response to this discussion thread: > As teachers, do we use the same instructional design for textbook, > classroom, radio, tv, internet related learning environments? > > I am afraid "E" can NOT be tunneled to mean only "electronic" tool. > > The influence of "E" ( as in evolved, extended, enhanced, > everywhere...) has far reaching impact on "how we learn" and "why we > learn". The change in the structures of knowledge transaction is > apparent to the personnel dealing with traditional Instructional > Designs. > > May be, it is this change in structures, designs and transactions > that, I feel, is leading to mind blocks and resistance in acknowleding > a revolution like change in the field of education! > > Will be writing more later on... > > Thanks > Nutan > > On Jul 15, 5:35 am, "Wong Leo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you all , > > > > The reason I asked about this is many times I found many times people pay > > attention to the form more, in my own teachinhg practice , including some > ( > > very small ) part of Elearning was a good choice , coz internet > technology > > has opened up many new exciting avenues for learning providers to explore > in > > trying to promote and encourage learning at all levels. > > > > The concept of learning-on-demand( or learning at needs ) increases > > relevancy. The concept of anytime, anywhere learning promotes lifelong > > learning and makes distance a problem of the past. > > > > However, to promote use of an formal e-learning site and to retain > > customers at the site, there is a need to redefine the "e" from formally > > meaning "electronic" to include the meaning of "experience," > "engagement," > > and other high level contexts. Then, there is a chance to provide > > appropriate attention to content development and to return to the basics > and > > fundamentals of a teacher-learner situation. > > > > I am a Chinese teacher of college I teach mass media research , To > further > > reflect on my own teaching , that is why I asked the question , last year > I > > began to introduce my students with the idea of networked learning , > however > > I found it is not helpful for most of students ( for most of them it is > just > > the tool) ,for so called self-regulated learning ,most of them need to > be > > helped in many ways , and the assignment they gave me are full of data , > but > > lack of a clear focus and logic , and some are too messy to read , with > > some fancy stuff they are trying to impress me , and some of them don't > know > > how to give a good presentation ,one of my students called Kevin .his > final > > assignment is called The problems and solutions of self-learning,you can > > watch his slides here <http://www.haokanbu.com/story/5258/>, ( he is > one of > > my favourite students) he did a survey based research on how his peer > > classmate treat the web2.0 technology and found amazing result , let me > know > > if you are famliare with this situation , > > > > If it is really the learning are different , but how ? and how as a > teacher > > can trigger these kind of learning happen ? > > > > and I totally agree with what Derek said , I think sometimes we just need > a > > term to make a difference , like education2.0 , when people despise this > > term ,however manytimes they still use this term to talk about things . > > > > Stephen , thank you for your feedback , would you please specify with > what > > is exactly the type of thing or learning to make Elearning different , or > it > > is just a mindset thing like Derek said ? > > > > Thank you > > > > Leo > > > > 2008/7/15 Stephen Downes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we don't talk about "ppLearning" (pencil & paper > > > learning) or "cbLearning" (chalk board learning) > > > > > No - but we do talk about 'group learning' and 'rote learning' and > > > 'programmed learning' (among others). So maybe we should regard it as a > > > historical quirk that the chalkboard and the pen and paper don't get a > > > mention when we talk about types of learning. > > > > > The question is whether the internet (or other variants of e-) > constitute a > > > form of learning that is distinct. And - with things like Web 2.0 and > blogs > > > and wikis and all that - I think that the e- *does* constitute a type > of > > > learning fundamentally different from the pen and paper, both in terms > of > > > methodology, and in terms of result. > > > > > -- Stephen > > > > > valerie wrote: > > > > > It's all about Learning. > > > > > As someone observed, we don't talk about "ppLearning" (pencil & paper > > > learning) or "cbLearning" (chalk board learning) - the "e" is just a > > > tool and part of the process. However, it does provide many new > > > possibilities to support a much larger and more diverse population of > > > learners. > > > > > On Jul 13, 5:45 am, "Wong Leo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > This is the question I have been thinking , > > > what do you think ? > > > > > Leo > > > > > -- > > > HELP 项目论坛https://groups.google.com/group/helpelephantsliveproject > > > > > -- > > > --- > > > > > Stephen Downes ~ Researcher ~ National Research Council > Canadahttp://www.downes.ca ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Free Learning > > > > -- > > HELP 项目论坛https://groups.google.com/group/helpelephantsliveproject- Hide > quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- Nellie Deutsch Doctoral Student of Education http://www.nelliemuller.com http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd http://www.building-relationship.com/education http://blendedlear.ning.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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