Hey Peter and Leigh ,

I really like the conversation , and want to bring some of my 2 cents , and
again from Chinese perspective , I just got back from Hongkong ,

Let me start from the newspaper reading from Hongkong, In hongkong if you
have been , you take MTR a lot and they give you free newspaper to read ,
the first free newspaper I got from MTR station was talking abt the Milk
scandal here in China mainland ( I assume that most of you have heared of it
) have you ?

and the way it talked abt the milk scandle is very different from the way I
read it from here in China mainland ,I teach Media research in my partime
job , I would like my students to be more self-critical on what they read
and see , and they need more varieity instead of just one voice , but it is
obviously not very possible if you buy Chinese produced newspaper , but
luckily or unluckily we have Internet , though Government have the censor
here , but still people can be able to read much more different perspecitive
for the same news ,I think it is very key for our students , I am thinking
abt using the newspaper in my next course here to give them the idea , but
again , I don't want to get fired from my school or in Jail so I need to
think about something else

Leigh is pointing out the very important issue I believe ,is are we creating
discrimination or bias when we are being passionate to other educators , I
am with him at this point ,

In China , we have a website called haokanbu www.haokanbu.com , it is a very
wondeful web2.0 websites , I used it a lot with my students , however ,I
stopped to use it lately , and  many of my students gave up using it when
they finish my course , and right now , many of Chinese teachers are being
very optimistic and postive and passionate on using this platform after I
began to use it abt 2 year ago , however , it is a little bit over now I
think , they are telling other teachers Hey come on  if you don;t want to be
left out , come and join us on the stage " it will be fun and good to see
more people in the same stage but , I am worried that it will creat 2 bad
things for both teachers and studetents

1 Teacher feel intimidated if they don;t join in

2 teacher will push their students to use it coz they think many other
schools and students are using this ,and one of value web2.0 is creating is
we use what our friends use .

3 then we might lose the creativity, even making teachers who don't want to
use it right away feel left out ,  again ,* web2.0 is creating barrier and
walls now , not breaking it *

However I think Peter is also right in many ways , I just so much enjoy your
conversation ,and learned a lot , so please contiue and forgive my
interupption .

Leo blessings



2008/11/5 Maria Droujkova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Education is a set of tools we grab as needed, for our current work and
> play. Starting from that ("radical unschooling") position... What are things
> I can be doing with our local math clubs that go beyond personal and
> intra-club meanings, and toward community meanings?
>
> Kids creating purely educational materials so other kids can participate in
> purely educational projects devoted to creating purely educational materials
> for purely... This is a bit too self-referential for my taste. I'd like to
> see kids creating tools so other kids can work and play. What can those be,
> as far as math is concerned?
>
> Asking for ideas.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> MariaD
>
> Make math your own, to make your own math.
>
>
>
>
> >
>


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http://wikieducator.org/user:leolaoshi

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