Leigh, I guess we are in non-violent agreement then... ahhhhh so were back to the collaborative networky thing... so what does it take to build a node on the network? Is WE just going through the "standard" lifecycle of becoming a node?
Now, I want to see you dance! Peter On Nov 4, 4:36 pm, "Leigh Blackall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Peter, > > You said: > > > I challenge you to point me to something better than WE in bringing an > > international set > > of educators together to create a free curriculum > > Now I'm worried (though I'm relieved you dance :) "a free curriculum", > surely a slip of the tongue Peter? > > The Internet is bringing (not just) educators together. I worry about > "educators" who feel they need something like Wikieducator to bring them > together, or that Wikieducator is the thing that is doing what the Internet > has been doing all along. > > An answer to your challenge Peter: *The Internet* (international network) is > the platform (that includes Wikieducator) that is bringing an international > set of educators together to offer up and develop free curricula. The other > great thing about that is that the wall between learning and life is > breaking down. > > I am trying to look at Wikieducator as one of many "tools" or services > available to me for publishing media and information, and connect with like > minded people and networks. It is a small piece loosely > joined<http://www.smallpieces.com/>. > Trouble is it takes up far more of my time than the other free tools, > because of its demands around community, collaboration, governance, and its > tendency to centralise our efforts and not allow easy embedding and > distribution. As a wiki tool it has very useful features (such as > print-to-pdf), and a number of annoying ones such as not offering an easy > way to backup my work. > > My OER work (along with millions of other "educators") is distributed across > the Internet, and as a result is networked and relavent. Wordpress, Blogger, > Youtube, Blip.tv, GoogleDocs, Archive.org, Wikispaces, Wikipedia, > Wikiversity, Flickr, Picasa Web Galleries, and various other minor sites. It > is the Internet that brings us OER, and I'm trying to remind you/us of that > - less we fall into a trap of becoming over reliant on Wikieducator, too > caught up in its rhetoric, and end up centralising and locking ourselves in. > Do you feel the lock in? I do.. time to dance and shake it off a bit. > > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Leigh, > > > With all due respect, Not that I disagree with what you are saying its > > just that I think you need a new pair of glasses. You seem to be > > reading a lot into things and being overly pessimistic about good > > works. In the big navel gazing world we live in, it is good people are > > putting efforts into projects like WE. We may not have it right in > > some peoples views, but at least we are engaged and I challenge you to > > point me to something better than WE in bringing an international set > > of educators together to create a free curriculum (with a good set of > > the tools and a vision for it to be localized). And through time, I > > hope we end up where things have become flatter and flatter. > > > "Be the change you want to see in the world" - Mahatma > > > I'm gettin' worried about you Leigh. > > Watch me dance if you want some playful distraction; > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQz51pH5cpw > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nlxrJ16cMY > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lakvIXEH2iU > > > In one of our dances we were jamin' with a didgeridoo > > > Be Well... > > > Peter > > > On Nov 4, 2:46 pm, "Leigh Blackall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Peter, I really like the spin on the wording that that journo has > > done: > > > > WikiEducator looks like Wikipedia. In fact, it uses the same software. > > And, > > > > > like the online encyclopedia, its mission is ambitious. It seeks to put > > all > > > > the world's educational materials online and make them freely available > > to > > > > everyone on the planet by the year 2015. > > > > We shoudl copy that and replace all "one curriculum" sounding lines > > straight > > > away. > > > > Only trouble is, that "ambitious" mission is already happening. > > Everything > > > is going online, huge amounts of it freely (in terms of copyright), just > > not > > > all of it is being centralised on Wikieducator. > > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Randy Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Hi Nellie, > > > > > Perhaps in your comment below, there are the seeds of an idea.... > > > > > What if, at some point, there were a cluster of WikiEducators - who > > > > decided....maybe in a conference setting - to work as a group, and > > > > collaborate on a group of pages, on a given topic, or theme.... > > > > > This could be accomplished in several days....just as a conference runs > > in > > > > terms of time.... > > > > > Thoughts, ideas? > > > > > - Randy > > > > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:12 PM, NELLIE DEUTSCH < > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> Peter, > > > >> This is a wiki. You are more than welcome to anything that my students > > and > > > >> I have added. You may add to it and place it or replace it, add to it, > > and > > > >> place it where you think it would be appropriate. I would love for > > someone > > > >> to finally play around with the wiki pages like they would with > > modeling > > > >> clay. > > > >> Warm wishes, > > > >> Nellie Deutsch > > > >> Doctoral Student > > > >> Educational Leadership > > > >> Curriculum and Instruction > > > >>http://www.nelliemuller.com > > > >>http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd > > > >>http://www.building-relationship.com/education > > > >>http://blendedlear.ning.com > > > >>http://connecting-online.ning.com > > > > >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >>> Thanks Nellie, > > > > >>> I look forward to the review of this project early next summer to see > > > >>> how we did in relation to what we have aspired to do... So far it has > > > >>> been exceeding my expectations. I certianly hope we can meet our > > > >>> definition of success; > > >http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Prawstho/IPS_Statement_of_Work#What_... > > > > >>> Could I encourage you to add your project to the student generated > > > >>> content portal? > > >http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Student_Generated_Content#Ac... > > > > >>> Peter > > > > >>> On Nov 4, 1:51 pm, "NELLIE DEUTSCH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> > Peter, > > > >>> > The news item is very impressive. 64 of grade 12 students students > > are > > > >>> > interested in collaborating with students from other countries. So > > far, > > > >>> I > > > >>> > managed to find a school in Washington, DC for 32 of my grade 11 > > > >>> students. I > > > >>> > would like to see a lot more high school kids on WE. > > > >>> > Warm wishes, > > > >>> > Nellie Deutsch > > > >>> > Doctoral Student > > > >>> > Educational Leadership > > > >>> > Curriculum and Instructionhttp://www.nelliemuller.comhttp:// > > >www.integrating-technology.com/pdhttp://www.building-relationship.com... > > > > >>> > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > >>> > > Hello All, > > > > >>> > > The K12 project I have been working on got some unexpected media > > > >>> > > exposure... puts WE into some good light. > > >http://www.canada.com/northshorenews/story.html?id=bfe6fdde-f3c8-4994... > > > > >>> > > I know I'm not alone in this effort (Nellie, Gunther, Others). So > > I > > > >>> > > was thinking for all those others encouraging student generated > > K12 > > > >>> > > content they should add thier projects to the very new (and > > under- > > > >>> > > developed) portal... > > >http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Student_Generated_Content#Ac... > > > > >>> > > Cheers, Peter- Hide quoted text - > > > > >>> > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > > > > ________________ > > > > Randy Fisher - Change Management & Collaboration, Human Performance & > > > > Engagement, Sustainable Communities & Organizations > > > > > * Engaging People in Teams, Communities and Organizations....and > > > > WikiEducator! > > > > >+ 1 604.684.2275 > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >http://www.wikieducator.org > > > >http://www.wikieducator.org/Community_Media > > > >http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Randyfisher > > > > > * Cool WikiEducator Video on YouTube: > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc9-CNlIqsY > > > > > * Can You Do the Wiki-Wiki?http://www.wikieducator.org/Wiki_Wiki > > > > > Skype: wikirandy > > > > -- > > > -- > > > Leigh Blackall > > >+64(0)21736539 > > > skype - leigh_blackall > > > SL - Leroy Goalposthttp://learnonline.wordpress.comhttp:// > >www.wikieducator.org/User:Leighblackall-Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > -- > Leigh Blackall+64(0)21736539 > skype - leigh_blackall > SL - Leroy > Goalposthttp://learnonline.wordpress.comhttp://www.wikieducator.org/User:Leighblackall --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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