On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 13:11, kirby urner <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Edward Cherlin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> = Kirby (me)
>> = Edward
> = Kirby
> Mostly what I say in cocktail parties is I only respect the opinion of
> Dutch engineers on the matter of global warming (they're pretty
> serious about it for obvious reasons). That's of course just a polite
> way of changing the subject.
>
>>> and start
>>> realizing that GCC is somewhat under the conscious control of humans.
>>
>> Past time.
>>
>
> So here you celebrate and welcome GCC being under the CC of humans...
I celebrate us taking responsibility for our actions. We have no
choice about having control, only whether it is in fact conscious.
>>> If humans have found a way to play with thermostat, that could come in
>>> handy.
>>
>> Matches are handy, but I don't see any value in letting children play with
>> them.
>>
>
> ... but here you seem more ambivalent, looking at humans as children,
> which is risky in terms of what kind of prophet you want to sound
> like.
The children are those who have not reached the age of responsibility,
not humanity as a whole.
> Given you seem to study the internal affairs of the USA's southeast
> e.g. Alabama, I'm speculating as to what extent you yourself might be
> influenced by Biblical models, even though you're on the record as not
> being especially Biblical.
Influenced how? I certainly have a strong interest in the Bible. It is
a remarkable record of a people going from tribal barbarism, with
genocide and other major issues, to some of the highest ideals of
conduct, education ("...neither shall they learn war any more."),
government, and so on. I mostly favor Ecclesiastes and Job, but there
are many other good bits.
> The Middle Eastern religions tend to be patriarchal in outlook and to
> encourage a kind of cantankerous "father knows best" attitude among
> older men. They come off sounding patronizing. You and I have never
> met so I'm clearly in no position to have an informed view, just
> wondering.
I have a continuing "Life of Brian" issue.
"You are all individuals!"
Crowd: "We are all individuals!"
Individual: "I'm not."
> We should have a beer someday or other drink in a social setting so
> that we might continue our mutual evaluation and assessment.
Sure.
> In the meantime, I mostly only discuss GCC with Dutch engineers (my
> line on the ISEPP list as well, where I mostly stay with other
> topics).
Quite right.
> Kirby Urner
>
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