Edward, Let's stop speculating and let's start moving. We can always edit and make changes; after all that's the wiki way on WikiEducator. Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Integrating Technology for Active Life-long Learning (IT4ALL) http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd Get ready for CO10 at WiZiQ: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops using WiZiQ: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Edward Cherlin <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 01:31, Steven Parker <[email protected]> wrote: > > Alot of passionate opinion here, alot has been shared, to get back to > > the point I was originally making that contentious issues need a > > platform with 'Climategate' as an example for those who are still > > interested in what's happening. > > Every element of this story is contradicted by other stories. I think > we can agree that at least one side is lying or deluded. Now we have > to determine which. How would you suggest we go about it? We could set > up a set of Wiki pages for the facts, the charges and countercharges, > and how we might teach this controversy. > > > The Telegraph and Times have published this article on the University > > of East Anglia destroying the climate data for the past 150 years upon > > being pressed under the Freedom of Information act. Pretty shocking to > > me that this has occurred preventing other scientists to verify the > > results. > > > > Climate change: this is the worst scientific scandal of our generation > > Our hopelessly compromised scientific establishment cannot be allowed > > to get away with the Climategate whitewash, says Christopher Booker. > > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html > > > > Climate change data dumped > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece > > "The data were gathered from weather stations around the world and > then adjusted to take account of variables in the way they were > collected. The revised figures were kept, but the originals — stored > on paper and magnetic tape — were dumped to save space when the CRU > moved to a new building." > > Do you think they are lying? > > > “The CRU is basically saying, ‘Trust us’. So much for settling > > questions and resolving debates with science,” he said." > > > > "(Jones) He and his colleagues say this temperature rise is > > “unequivocally” linked to greenhouse gas emissions generated by > > humans. Their findings are one of the main pieces of evidence used by > > the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which says global > > warming is a threat to humanity." > > > > Also other IPCC scientists are turning on each other. Dr. Eduardo > > Zorita writes: “CRU files: Why I think that Michael Mann (Of Hockey > > Stick debacle fame), Phil Jones and Stefan Rahmstorf should be barred > > from the IPCC process.” > > > > "These words do not mean that I think anthropogenic climate change is > > a hoax. On the contrary, it is a question which we have to be very > > well aware of. But I am also aware that in this thick atmosphere -and > > I am not speaking of greenhouse gases now- editors, reviewers and > > authors of alternative studies, analysis, interpretations,even based > > on the same data we have at our disposal, have been bullied and subtly > > blackmailed. In this atmosphere, Ph D students are often tempted to > > tweak their data so as to fit the 'politically correct picture'. Some, > > or many issues, about climate change are still not well known. Policy > > makers should be aware of the attempts to hide these uncertainties > > under a unified picture. I had the 'pleasure' to experience all this > > in my area of research." > > So you reckon he' > > http://coast.gkss.de/staff/zorita/myview.html > > > > Doesn't surprise me. Lots more revelations to come, great resources to > > talk around the science and politics of climate change with students. > > > > Cheers > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > > To visit the discussion forum: > http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > > > -- > Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin > Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. > The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. > http://www.earthtreasury.org/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]
