Hi Mary,

Thanks for your feedback and vote to support embedding video.  I agree
--- videos are powerful teaching tools and our community commitment to
editable resources may trigger some interesting reuse scenarios.

Cheers
Wayne

On Feb 19, 2:39 pm, Mary <[email protected]> wrote:
> I would find embedding videos useful. they are such a strong teaching
> meduim. Blip tv sounds like a via solution from what I understood  of your
> explanation. I would vote to proceed with this worthy project.
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Wayne Mackintosh <
>
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
>
> > In the past we've received requests from many community members to
> > implement the functionality to embed links to video hosted on third party
> > sites (eg Youtube, BlipTV Vimeo etc). Now that WikiEducator is hosted
> > independently by the OER Foundation, we have more flexibility and autonomy
> > to take a community decision concerning on third party video.
>
> >    - Do WikiEducators want the ability to embed links to video clips?
> >    - What is the best way for us to take this decision?
> >    - Should we have a trial period to see how this works?
>
> > We need and invite your feedback -- so please post your replies to this
> > list.  We will consider all feedback posted over the next two weeks, before
> > deciding on the next steps. Apology for the long email -- but I provide some
> > discussion points below. Third party video is not a simple matter when it
> > comes to the values and meaning of freedom as interpreted by our community
> > values.
>
> > *Discussion*
>
> > Embedding video is not a simple question of turning a switch to enable
> > links to third party hosted video. Technically speaking, this is relatively
> > easy to achieve. However,  there are many issues associated with digital
> > video and our core values of the WikiEducator project which we need to
> > consider, most notably the essential freedoms.
>
> > WE subscribe to the free cultural works definition and WE need to find a
> > solution which aligns with what we believe as a community OER project. I've
> > been sound boarding a few ideas with colleagues and friends and would
> > appreciate your input and feedback on a few baseline requirements and
> > suggestions.
>
> >    - *Licensing.*  We must be able to identify and search for
> >    appropriately licensed video content. This is to ensure that video 
> > content
> >    we embed adheres to the requirements of the definition of free cultural
> >    works. In practice this means we can only use video hosting sites which
> >    clearly tag their video content with the relevant copyright license as 
> > well
> >    as corresponding search functionality to identify resources which are
> >    appropriately licensed (eg. CC-0, CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, GFDL and the public
> >    domain declaration), Therefore,  Youtube (for example) would not meet 
> > this
> >    requirement as their existing conditions of service would not enable the
> >    implementation of license tagging. Currently WIkiEducator users would 
> > not be
> >    able to differentiate openly licensed videos from all rights reserved
> >    content. However, BlipTV allows users to choose from a number of 
> > *Creative
> >    Commons* licenses to apply to their work, and videos are searchable by
> >    license. This would enable WIkiEducators to use the Creative Commons 
> > search
> >    (http://search.creativecommons.org/) facility to easily identify
> >    appropriately licensed video on BlipTV.
> >    - *Open file formats. *This is a requirement to ensure that our content
> >    is stored and accessible in formats which can be edited using free/open
> >    source software. In addition this means that source files should be
> >    available for download. No WikiEducator should be forced to purchase a
> >    license for non-free software in order to remix and create a derivative 
> > work
> >    from our site. Most video sites (with the exception, for instance, of the
> >    Wikimedia Commons) encode video for web delivery using the Flash Video
> >    Format (flv) which is a proprietary file format. BlipTV provide a service
> >    for their registered users who also have an account with the Internet
> >    Archive (http://blip.tv/prefs/archiveorg/). In short this facility
> >    enables archiving of downloadable video files including the open file 
> > format
> >    (ogg Theora). Therefore, WikiEducator users who upload video files to 
> > BlipTV
> >    could register for the Internet Archive service making it easier for
> >    educators to download video in the formats of their choice for remix
> >    purposes. However, this feature would not solve the problem of open file
> >    formats for the video uploaded by BlipTV users who do not register for 
> > the
> >    Internet Archive service.  Fortunately BlipTV provides the functionality 
> > to
> >    download the video files, even though these are generally supplied in the
> >    flv (proprietary file format). The open source FFmpeg project (
> >    http://www.ffmpeg.org/) provides tools to convert flv files into open
> >    file formats. Therefore, all WikiEducator would have access to free 
> > software
> >    tools for remixing source video, thus meeting the requirements of the 
> > free
> >    cultural works definition.
>
> > Therefore the BlipTV hosting site would provide a service which aligns with
> > our values. There are also Mediawiki wiki extensions available for embedding
> > BlipTV video on WikiEducator pages.
>
> > Pending a positive assessment of the stability and security of the BlipTV
> > extensions for WikiEducator -- Would the community consider moving forward
> > with providing capability for embedding BlipTV video on the WikiEducator
> > site along the lines suggested above?
>
> > Thoughts?
>
> > Cheers
> > Wayne
>
> > --
> > Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
> > Director,
> > International Centre for Open Education,
> > Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
> > Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
> > Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator,www.wikieducator.org
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