Thanks Elizabeth,

Appreciate your vote.

You will see from my response to Alison that we're thinking about ways in
which we would be able to provide offline versions of rich media, especially
for learners who may not have access to the internet.

Cheers
Wayne

On 20 February 2010 03:05, elizabeth mbasu <emb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Videos turn abstract concepts into real and contribute to constructive
> learning. I vote for incorporating links to suitable video sites.
> Elizabeth
>
> --- On *Thu, 2/18/10, Mary <lightst...@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Mary <lightst...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Do WikiEducator's want to embed links to video
> in their OER resources?
> To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 3:39 PM
>
>
> I would find embedding videos useful. they are such a strong teaching
> meduim. Blip tv sounds like a via solution from what I understood  of your
> explanation. I would vote to proceed with this worthy project.
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Wayne Mackintosh <
> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> In the past we've received requests from many community members to
>> implement the functionality to embed links to video hosted on third party
>> sites (eg Youtube, BlipTV Vimeo etc). Now that WikiEducator is hosted
>> independently by the OER Foundation, we have more flexibility and autonomy
>> to take a community decision concerning on third party video.
>>
>>    - Do WikiEducators want the ability to embed links to video clips?
>>    - What is the best way for us to take this decision?
>>    - Should we have a trial period to see how this works?
>>
>> We need and invite your feedback -- so please post your replies to this
>> list.  We will consider all feedback posted over the next two weeks, before
>> deciding on the next steps. Apology for the long email -- but I provide some
>> discussion points below. Third party video is not a simple matter when it
>> comes to the values and meaning of freedom as interpreted by our community
>> values.
>>
>> *Discussion*
>>
>> Embedding video is not a simple question of turning a switch to enable
>> links to third party hosted video. Technically speaking, this is relatively
>> easy to achieve. However,  there are many issues associated with digital
>> video and our core values of the WikiEducator project which we need to
>> consider, most notably the essential freedoms.
>>
>> WE subscribe to the free cultural works definition and WE need to find a
>> solution which aligns with what we believe as a community OER project. I've
>> been sound boarding a few ideas with colleagues and friends and would
>> appreciate your input and feedback on a few baseline requirements and
>> suggestions.
>>
>>    - *Licensing.*  We must be able to identify and search for
>>    appropriately licensed video content. This is to ensure that video content
>>    we embed adheres to the requirements of the definition of free cultural
>>    works. In practice this means we can only use video hosting sites which
>>    clearly tag their video content with the relevant copyright license as 
>> well
>>    as corresponding search functionality to identify resources which are
>>    appropriately licensed (eg. CC-0, CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, GFDL and the public
>>    domain declaration), Therefore,  Youtube (for example) would not meet this
>>    requirement as their existing conditions of service would not enable the
>>    implementation of license tagging. Currently WIkiEducator users would not 
>> be
>>    able to differentiate openly licensed videos from all rights reserved
>>    content. However, BlipTV allows users to choose from a number of *Creative
>>    Commons* licenses to apply to their work, and videos are searchable by
>>    license. This would enable WIkiEducators to use the Creative Commons 
>> search
>>    (http://search.creativecommons.org/) facility to easily identify
>>    appropriately licensed video on BlipTV.
>>    - *Open file formats. *This is a requirement to ensure that our
>>    content is stored and accessible in formats which can be edited using
>>    free/open source software. In addition this means that source files should
>>    be available for download. No WikiEducator should be forced to purchase a
>>    license for non-free software in order to remix and create a derivative 
>> work
>>    from our site. Most video sites (with the exception, for instance, of the
>>    Wikimedia Commons) encode video for web delivery using the Flash Video
>>    Format (flv) which is a proprietary file format. BlipTV provide a service
>>    for their registered users who also have an account with the Internet
>>    Archive (http://blip.tv/prefs/archiveorg/ ). In short this facility
>>    enables archiving of downloadable video files including the open file 
>> format
>>    (ogg Theora). Therefore, WikiEducator users who upload video files to 
>> BlipTV
>>    could register for the Internet Archive service making it easier for
>>    educators to download video in the formats of their choice for remix
>>    purposes. However, this feature would not solve the problem of open file
>>    formats for the video uploaded by BlipTV users who do not register for the
>>    Internet Archive service.  Fortunately BlipTV provides the functionality 
>> to
>>    download the video files, even though these are generally supplied in the
>>    flv (proprietary file format). The open source FFmpeg project (
>>    http://www.ffmpeg.org/) provides tools to convert flv files into open
>>    file formats. Therefore, all WikiEducator would have access to free 
>> software
>>    tools for remixing source video, thus meeting the requirements of the free
>>    cultural works definition.
>>
>> Therefore the BlipTV hosting site would provide a service which aligns
>> with our values. There are also Mediawiki wiki extensions available for
>> embedding BlipTV video on WikiEducator pages.
>>
>> Pending a positive assessment of the stability and security of the BlipTV
>> extensions for WikiEducator -- Would the community consider moving forward
>> with providing capability for embedding BlipTV video on the WikiEducator
>> site along the lines suggested above?
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
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>> International Centre for Open Education,
>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
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