I add my voice to the growing chorus <smile>

- Randy

PS. Barbara - do you want to open a dialogue up with that reference - Open
Video Alliance that you suggested?

- Randy

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:05 AM, elizabeth mbasu <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Videos turn abstract concepts into real and contribute to constructive
> learning. I vote for incorporating links to suitable video sites.
> Elizabeth
>
> --- On *Thu, 2/18/10, Mary <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Mary <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Do WikiEducator's want to embed links to video
> in their OER resources?
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 3:39 PM
>
>
> I would find embedding videos useful. they are such a strong teaching
> meduim. Blip tv sounds like a via solution from what I understood  of your
> explanation. I would vote to proceed with this worthy project.
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Wayne Mackintosh <
> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> In the past we've received requests from many community members to
>> implement the functionality to embed links to video hosted on third party
>> sites (eg Youtube, BlipTV Vimeo etc). Now that WikiEducator is hosted
>> independently by the OER Foundation, we have more flexibility and autonomy
>> to take a community decision concerning on third party video.
>>
>>    - Do WikiEducators want the ability to embed links to video clips?
>>    - What is the best way for us to take this decision?
>>    - Should we have a trial period to see how this works?
>>
>> We need and invite your feedback -- so please post your replies to this
>> list.  We will consider all feedback posted over the next two weeks, before
>> deciding on the next steps. Apology for the long email -- but I provide some
>> discussion points below. Third party video is not a simple matter when it
>> comes to the values and meaning of freedom as interpreted by our community
>> values.
>>
>> *Discussion*
>>
>> Embedding video is not a simple question of turning a switch to enable
>> links to third party hosted video. Technically speaking, this is relatively
>> easy to achieve. However,  there are many issues associated with digital
>> video and our core values of the WikiEducator project which we need to
>> consider, most notably the essential freedoms.
>>
>> WE subscribe to the free cultural works definition and WE need to find a
>> solution which aligns with what we believe as a community OER project. I've
>> been sound boarding a few ideas with colleagues and friends and would
>> appreciate your input and feedback on a few baseline requirements and
>> suggestions.
>>
>>    - *Licensing.*  We must be able to identify and search for
>>    appropriately licensed video content. This is to ensure that video content
>>    we embed adheres to the requirements of the definition of free cultural
>>    works. In practice this means we can only use video hosting sites which
>>    clearly tag their video content with the relevant copyright license as 
>> well
>>    as corresponding search functionality to identify resources which are
>>    appropriately licensed (eg. CC-0, CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, GFDL and the public
>>    domain declaration), Therefore,  Youtube (for example) would not meet this
>>    requirement as their existing conditions of service would not enable the
>>    implementation of license tagging. Currently WIkiEducator users would not 
>> be
>>    able to differentiate openly licensed videos from all rights reserved
>>    content. However, BlipTV allows users to choose from a number of *Creative
>>    Commons* licenses to apply to their work, and videos are searchable by
>>    license. This would enable WIkiEducators to use the Creative Commons 
>> search
>>    (http://search.creativecommons.org/) facility to easily identify
>>    appropriately licensed video on BlipTV.
>>    - *Open file formats. *This is a requirement to ensure that our
>>    content is stored and accessible in formats which can be edited using
>>    free/open source software. In addition this means that source files should
>>    be available for download. No WikiEducator should be forced to purchase a
>>    license for non-free software in order to remix and create a derivative 
>> work
>>    from our site. Most video sites (with the exception, for instance, of the
>>    Wikimedia Commons) encode video for web delivery using the Flash Video
>>    Format (flv) which is a proprietary file format. BlipTV provide a service
>>    for their registered users who also have an account with the Internet
>>    Archive (http://blip.tv/prefs/archiveorg/ ). In short this facility
>>    enables archiving of downloadable video files including the open file 
>> format
>>    (ogg Theora). Therefore, WikiEducator users who upload video files to 
>> BlipTV
>>    could register for the Internet Archive service making it easier for
>>    educators to download video in the formats of their choice for remix
>>    purposes. However, this feature would not solve the problem of open file
>>    formats for the video uploaded by BlipTV users who do not register for the
>>    Internet Archive service.  Fortunately BlipTV provides the functionality 
>> to
>>    download the video files, even though these are generally supplied in the
>>    flv (proprietary file format). The open source FFmpeg project (
>>    http://www.ffmpeg.org/) provides tools to convert flv files into open
>>    file formats. Therefore, all WikiEducator would have access to free 
>> software
>>    tools for remixing source video, thus meeting the requirements of the free
>>    cultural works definition.
>>
>> Therefore the BlipTV hosting site would provide a service which aligns
>> with our values. There are also Mediawiki wiki extensions available for
>> embedding BlipTV video on WikiEducator pages.
>>
>> Pending a positive assessment of the stability and security of the BlipTV
>> extensions for WikiEducator -- Would the community consider moving forward
>> with providing capability for embedding BlipTV video on the WikiEducator
>> site along the lines suggested above?
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
>> Director,
>> International Centre for Open Education,
>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
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