Thanks Wayne. This idea would be especially useful for Sub-Sahara 
countries. More than 80% of learners may not access internet.The situation 
could be worse for primary and secondary schools.
Elizabeth


--- On Fri, 2/19/10, Wayne Mackintosh <mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Wayne Mackintosh <mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Do WikiEducator's want to embed links to video in 
their OER resources?
To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 3:23 PM


Thanks Elizabeth,

Appreciate your vote.

You will see from my response to Alison that we're thinking about ways in which 
we would be able to provide offline versions of rich media, especially for 
learners who may not have access to the internet.

Cheers
Wayne


On 20 February 2010 03:05, elizabeth mbasu <emb...@yahoo.com> wrote:





Videos turn abstract concepts into real and contribute to constructive 
learning. I vote for incorporating links to suitable video sites.
Elizabeth

--- On Thu, 2/18/10, Mary <lightst...@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Mary <lightst...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Do WikiEducator's want to embed links to video in 
their OER resources?
To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 3:39 PM





I would find embedding videos useful. they are such a strong teaching meduim. 
Blip tv sounds like a via solution from what I understood  of your explanation. 
I would vote to proceed with this worthy project.


On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Wayne Mackintosh <mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Hi Everyone,

In the past we've received requests from many community members to implement 
the functionality to embed links to video hosted on third party sites (eg 
Youtube, BlipTV Vimeo etc). Now that WikiEducator is hosted independently by 
the OER Foundation, we have more flexibility and autonomy to take a community 
decision concerning on third party video. 


Do WikiEducators want the ability to embed links to video clips?
What is the best way for us to take this decision? 

Should we have a trial period to see how this works? 
We need and invite your feedback -- so please post your replies to this list.  
We will consider all feedback posted over the next two weeks, before deciding 
on the next steps. Apology for the long email -- but I provide some discussion 
points below. Third party video is not a simple matter when it comes to the 
values and meaning of freedom as interpreted by our community values. 

Discussion

Embedding video is not a simple question of turning a switch to enable links to 
third party hosted video. Technically speaking, this is relatively easy to 
achieve. However,  there are many issues associated with digital video and our 
core values of the WikiEducator project which we need to consider, most notably 
the essential freedoms.

WE subscribe to the free cultural works definition and WE need to find a 
solution which aligns with what we believe as a community OER project. I've 
been sound boarding a few ideas with colleagues and friends and would 
appreciate your input and feedback on a few baseline requirements and 
suggestions. 


Licensing.  We must be able to identify and search for appropriately licensed 
video content. This is to ensure that video content we embed adheres to the 
requirements of the definition of free cultural works. In practice this means 
we can only use video hosting sites which clearly tag their video content with 
the relevant copyright license as well as corresponding search functionality to 
identify resources which are appropriately licensed (eg. CC-0, CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, 
GFDL and the public domain declaration), Therefore,  Youtube (for example) 
would not meet this requirement as their existing conditions of service would 
not enable the implementation of license tagging. Currently WIkiEducator users 
would not be able to differentiate openly licensed videos from all rights 
reserved content. However, BlipTV allows users to choose from a number of 
Creative Commons licenses to apply to their work, and videos are searchable by 
license. This would enable
 WIkiEducators to use the Creative Commons search 
(http://search.creativecommons.org/) facility to easily identify appropriately 
licensed video on BlipTV.

Open file formats. This is a requirement to ensure that our content is stored 
and accessible in formats which can be edited using free/open source software. 
In addition this means that source files should be available for download. No 
WikiEducator should be forced to purchase a license for non-free software in 
order to remix and create a derivative work from our site. Most video sites 
(with the exception, for instance, of the Wikimedia Commons) encode video for 
web delivery using the Flash Video Format (flv) which is a proprietary file 
format. BlipTV provide a service for their registered users who also have an 
account with the Internet Archive (http://blip.tv/prefs/archiveorg/ ). In short 
this facility enables archiving of downloadable video files including the open 
file format (ogg Theora). Therefore, WikiEducator users who upload video files 
to BlipTV could register for the Internet Archive service making it easier for 
educators to download video in
 the formats of their choice for remix purposes. However, this feature would 
not solve the problem of open file formats for the video uploaded by BlipTV 
users who do not register for the Internet Archive service.  Fortunately BlipTV 
provides the functionality to download the video files, even though these are 
generally supplied in the flv (proprietary file format). The open source FFmpeg 
project (http://www.ffmpeg.org/) provides tools to convert flv files into open 
file formats. Therefore, all WikiEducator would have access to free software 
tools for remixing source video, thus meeting the requirements of the free 
cultural works definition. Therefore the BlipTV hosting site would provide a 
service which aligns with our values. There are also Mediawiki wiki extensions 
available for embedding BlipTV video on WikiEducator pages. 

Pending a positive assessment of the stability and security of the BlipTV 
extensions for WikiEducator -- Would the community consider moving forward with 
providing capability for embedding BlipTV video on the WikiEducator site along 
the lines suggested above?

Thoughts?

Cheers
Wayne



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