Hi All,

The focus of my post, was NOT about Ning per se - it was more about the
organizers choice of making it very difficult to obtain 'access' to an Open
Access website.

Ning is not the bad guy here -

Rather, it's about thinking and acting in alignment with openness and
access.

- Randy



On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, gene loeb <[email protected]> wrote:

> Leo, aalso those involved int he study of "community Informatics". Thanks,
> you are a good friend.
> Gene
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Wong Leo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Gene ,
>>
>> I am working with NGOs in China for last 5 years , I have sent your
>> requests to organisations I know abt using technology with elderly
>> people . if they reply I will forward to you .
>>
>> Leo
>>
>> 2010/10/10, gene loeb <[email protected]>:
>> > Hi all,
>> > I am very angry and Ning. Wikieducator is a group of volunteers and
>> > worldwide learners. Many companies operate by advertising on the blog
>> (which
>> > I think is satisfactory. The ads fit the blog topic and are very proper.
>> > Others handle it by having several tiers or layers. ONe offers very
>> > acceptable services, but offers a higher number or level of service at a
>> > fee.(Surveymonke adds features ie.printed forms and more services, for
>> > example. This works out well.
>> > By the way, I am looking for persons and institutions in China and Asia
>> > working with elderly using technology. Please  let  me know. I am
>> editing a
>> > Journal on this  topic.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Gene
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 12:28 AM, Wong Leo <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> To be fair with Ning company , they did give its user warning tellling
>> >> that they are going to charge ( but the option they give to users are
>> >> all costing money
>> >>
>> >> I remember wikispaces , one of my favourite wiki , does have paid
>> >> services too , but it does also allow people to use wikispaces for
>> >> free ,especially for those of educator who were just using wikispaces
>> >> for its own classroom or personall use
>> >>
>> >> however , how those Web2.0 company or education2.0 services ( if they
>> >> are nodepending on funding or donation ) how can they survive?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Gene , and other educators what is your thoughts on this issue ?
>> >>
>> >> Can we really trust them and putting our resources or lessons plans on
>> >> them
>> >> .
>> >>
>> >> There are many things about wikieducator , but one of good things is
>> >> FREE to use
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2010/10/10, gene loeb <[email protected]>:
>> >> > Randy,
>> >> > Isn't ning the blog company that suddenly decided to charge everyone
>> and
>> >> > came up with new servess and dumped its customers,m many of them in
>> >> > education? Dont waste time with Ning anything.
>> >> > Gene
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Randy Fisher <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi All,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How irritating - I can't sign up to the Ning blog because I don't
>> know
>> >> who
>> >> >> the person is, that created the network. I checked on the Open
>> Access
>> >> >> "About
>> >> >> Us" page, and could not find it. So, I cannot register, cannot pass
>> go,
>> >> >> etc.
>> >> >> Nor, does there seem to be a way to email someone associated with
>> the
>> >> >> group.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.openaccessweek.org/groups
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What a paradox - the event screams "Open Access", yet for all that I
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> see and experience, it is a Giant Barrier that's off-limits.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That sucks.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Maybe someone will get the message.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Randy
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
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