Hey Randy , sorry for "mislead" the discussion , but since it is a conversation and disscussion , and created by all of us , so sometimes , if it is not too far sidetracked which I am myself aware of , I will try not to wonder too far from the focus
I did not mean to do it , in where I come from ( China ) , we are as previldeged as most of western people to not even talking about using OER , and acting with openess and access but first , we need to be able to get access and literally"open " the page Ning was blocked in China once for a long time , I believe it is also something to do with Gene interested abt "commuity infomatics " to understand your concern , I reread your question in this thread , you felt irritating or even annoying to cost so much trouble to just sign onto the blog what I am feeling is not even sign up to the blog , but The whole Ning are going to close the door to users like me That sucks too right ? Leo 2010/10/10 Randy Fisher <[email protected]> > Hi All, > > The focus of my post, was NOT about Ning per se - it was more about the > organizers choice of making it very difficult to obtain 'access' to an Open > Access website. > > Ning is not the bad guy here - > > Rather, it's about thinking and acting in alignment with openness and > access. > > - Randy > > > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, gene loeb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Leo, aalso those involved int he study of "community Informatics". Thanks, >> you are a good friend. >> Gene >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Wong Leo <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear Gene , >>> >>> I am working with NGOs in China for last 5 years , I have sent your >>> requests to organisations I know abt using technology with elderly >>> people . if they reply I will forward to you . >>> >>> Leo >>> >>> 2010/10/10, gene loeb <[email protected]>: >>> > Hi all, >>> > I am very angry and Ning. Wikieducator is a group of volunteers and >>> > worldwide learners. Many companies operate by advertising on the blog >>> (which >>> > I think is satisfactory. The ads fit the blog topic and are very >>> proper. >>> > Others handle it by having several tiers or layers. ONe offers very >>> > acceptable services, but offers a higher number or level of service at >>> a >>> > fee.(Surveymonke adds features ie.printed forms and more services, for >>> > example. This works out well. >>> > By the way, I am looking for persons and institutions in China and Asia >>> > working with elderly using technology. Please let me know. I am >>> editing a >>> > Journal on this topic. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Gene >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 12:28 AM, Wong Leo <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> To be fair with Ning company , they did give its user warning tellling >>> >> that they are going to charge ( but the option they give to users are >>> >> all costing money >>> >> >>> >> I remember wikispaces , one of my favourite wiki , does have paid >>> >> services too , but it does also allow people to use wikispaces for >>> >> free ,especially for those of educator who were just using wikispaces >>> >> for its own classroom or personall use >>> >> >>> >> however , how those Web2.0 company or education2.0 services ( if they >>> >> are nodepending on funding or donation ) how can they survive? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Gene , and other educators what is your thoughts on this issue ? >>> >> >>> >> Can we really trust them and putting our resources or lessons plans on >>> >> them >>> >> . >>> >> >>> >> There are many things about wikieducator , but one of good things is >>> >> FREE to use >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 2010/10/10, gene loeb <[email protected]>: >>> >> > Randy, >>> >> > Isn't ning the blog company that suddenly decided to charge everyone >>> and >>> >> > came up with new servess and dumped its customers,m many of them in >>> >> > education? Dont waste time with Ning anything. >>> >> > Gene >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Randy Fisher <[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> Hi All, >>> >> >> >>> >> >> How irritating - I can't sign up to the Ning blog because I don't >>> know >>> >> who >>> >> >> the person is, that created the network. I checked on the Open >>> Access >>> >> >> "About >>> >> >> Us" page, and could not find it. So, I cannot register, cannot pass >>> go, >>> >> >> etc. >>> >> >> Nor, does there seem to be a way to email someone associated with >>> the >>> >> >> group. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> http://www.openaccessweek.org/groups >>> >> >> >>> >> >> What a paradox - the event screams "Open Access", yet for all that >>> I >>> >> >> can >>> >> >> see and experience, it is a Giant Barrier that's off-limits. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> That sucks. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Maybe someone will get the message. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> - Randy >>> >> >> >>> >> >> -- >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> ________________ >>> >> >> Randy Fisher, MA, OMD >>> >> >> Senior Consultant, OD/Change Management, Social Media, E-Learning, >>> >> >> Collaboration & Performance >>> >> >> Intersol Group, Canada >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Senior Consultant, Organization & Capacity Development >>> >> >> International Centre for Open Education / OER Foundation, New >>> Zealand >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Elected Member, WikiEducator Community Council, >>> www.wikieducator.org >>> >> >> +1 613.722.5577 (EST) >>> >> >> Skype: wikirandy >>> >> >> * >>> >> >> Facilitating organizational learning, change, online collaboration >>> and >>> >> >> engagement >>> >> >> * >>> >> >> >>> >> >> - Stakeholder/Community Engagement & Project Implementation >>> >> >> - Change & Transition Management >>> >> >> - E-Learning, Online Collaboration & Learning Communities >>> >> >> - Social Media >>> >> >> - Coaching & Facilitation >>> >> >> - My Bio: http://www.communitybuildingexpert.com >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> -- >>> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >> >> Groups "WikiEducator" group. >>> >> >> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >>> >> >> To visit the discussion forum: >>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >>> >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >> >> [email protected] >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > With Sincerest Best Wishes , >>> >> > >>> >> > Gene >>> >> > Gene Loeb, Ph.D. >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >> > Groups "WikiEducator" group. >>> >> > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >>> >> > To visit the discussion forum: >>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >>> >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >> > [email protected] >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Leo Wong >>> >> Co-director of HELP in China >>> >> -------------------------------------- >>> >> http://helpsuzhou.blogbus.com/ HELP >>> >> http://wikieducator.org/User:Leolaoshi >>> >> >>> >> There is something very special and powerful about engaging directly >>> with >>> >> the real teacher and real Kids >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >> Groups "WikiEducator" group. >>> >> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >>> >> To visit the discussion forum: >>> http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >>> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >> [email protected] >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > With Sincerest Best Wishes , >>> > >>> > Gene >>> > Gene Loeb, Ph.D. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> > Groups "WikiEducator" group. >>> > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >>> > To visit the discussion forum: >>> http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > [email protected] >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Leo Wong >>> Co-director of HELP in China >>> -------------------------------------- >>> http://helpsuzhou.blogbus.com/ HELP >>> http://wikieducator.org/User:Leolaoshi >>> >>> There is something very special and powerful about engaging directly with >>> the real teacher and real Kids >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "WikiEducator" group. >>> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >>> To visit the discussion forum: >>> http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> With Sincerest Best Wishes , >> >> Gene >> Gene Loeb, Ph.D. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "WikiEducator" group. >> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >> To visit the discussion forum: >> http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> > > > > -- > > > ________________ > Randy Fisher, MA, OMD > Senior Consultant, OD/Change Management, Social Media, E-Learning, > Collaboration & Performance > Intersol Group, Canada > > Senior Consultant, Organization & Capacity Development > International Centre for Open Education / OER Foundation, New Zealand > > Elected Member, WikiEducator Community Council, www.wikieducator.org > +1 613.722.5577 (EST) > Skype: wikirandy > * > Facilitating organizational learning, change, online collaboration and > engagement > * > > - 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